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Need help with putting my AllPro plate bumper together

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by DueNorth, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. Jun 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM
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    DueNorth

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    Hey Everyone, for something that seemed so easy to do, is actually becoming quite the chore. I got quite a few questions because instructions were not included with the bumper. I've got pictures for each problem i'm having, so i hope you guys can help!

    1) What are these two black brackets for and where do they go? AND the two steel plates, what are they for as well?

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    2) What are these two smaller steel plates for?

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    3) Does the lip on the outer wings go over the outside of the bumper or do they get tucked in and bolted down on the inside? Visually they look like they go on the inside buy im just not sure...

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    4) My biggest problem yet, is the light bar. It just doesn't fit! The light bar itself seems to wide and the brackets that are welded to it, just don't seem to be on the best angle. I've loosened all the bolts on the bumper just to get some extra slack, but the holes from the light bar just dont line up. I mean, they're at least a few inches out. So i just mounted 1 bolt down on each side and tried tightening the whole bumper up, but i just simply snapped the bolt in half right off the wing.

    I'm sooooo frustrated right now. It seems that this light bar was poorly fabricated and doesn't line up at ALL. IMO it should just screw on, even if the bumper is all put together. I shouldn't have to loosen everything up, just to get some slack! Argh! Obviously they didn't pre assemble this at there shop, and i've scratched the shit outta the powdercoating on the top of the bumper trying to put it on.


    HELP! Anyone else have these problems putting this together, or am i the only one? :(

    This bottom picture shows the left side bolted on with only one bolt (because the other hole doesn't line up) and literally thats how far the light bar is out the right side! I have to force it up to try and line it up a little. So much force that it bends all the bumper outta wack trying to get it lined up. It can't be like that. And even with a friend i couldn't get the holes lined up properly. Errrr, bad light bar maybe? Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

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  2. Jun 6, 2010 at 3:29 PM
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    ohh god, i went to a mod day and helped someone put together one of these and it was the trickiest thing ever. I cant remember what we did, but it seemed like we put it together and took it apart about a dozen times. Hopefully someone else will chime in and help out.
     
  3. Jun 6, 2010 at 3:42 PM
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    Thanks man, i hope someone can help out to. What a nightmare so far. I've assembled and disassemble this bumper several times already! i really didn't think it would be this difficult but i guess i was wrong...
     
  4. Jun 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM
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    ya just be patient. I remember that the light bar didnt fit properly even after we hat it all put together. Ended up having to drill the holes bigger in the light loop so the screws would reach.
     
  5. Jun 6, 2010 at 4:02 PM
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    I thought of doing that as well, which wouldn't bother me. But i can't even seat 1 bolt per side without busting bolts in half trying to tighten the "wings" down. Its literally out by 3 inches! Way too much if you ask me. And it just strain's the rest of the bumper trying to make it fit. Shouldn't be like that at all!
     
  6. Jun 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM
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    Contact All-Pro. They'd be happy to help. :)
     
  7. Jun 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM
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    Did it come with directions?
     
  8. Jun 6, 2010 at 4:12 PM
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    I just did this install a couple of months ago, so I can help.

    The side pieces are on correctly, but you're going to have to remove some of those bolts to put on the reinforcing brackets (in your first picture). Once those brackets are on, then reinstall those bolts.

    In your 3rd picture, I can see that the top middle part and the bottom middle part arent bolted on correctly. If you look at just the top middle piece, there's a lip on the very bottom of it that has all the bolts going across. That lip should be on the other side of the bottom middle piece. The lip should be "wrapping" around the bottom piece.

    In your second picture, those hold the bottom side of the bumper in. Hard to explain without pics.

    Let me look for the instructions.
     
  9. Jun 6, 2010 at 4:16 PM
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    Oh and wait to put the lightbar on last. Meaning, make sure you do all the other steps correctly, then install it on your truck. THEN put on the lightbar. Thing with metal is that there's room for the metal to stretch (albeit hard).

    Having everything in place will make it easier for your lightbar to fit
     
  10. Jun 6, 2010 at 4:49 PM
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    Ohhhh! Man, that helped a lot! Thank you so much. Lemme get those middle pieces installed properly and get those reinforced brackets on and we'll go from there.

    So i should wait till the bumper is mounted before i try putting the light bar on?

    If you can find those instructions, that would be helpful to!!!

    Once again, thanks for explaining this to me. I'll go tinker around with it right now and report back.
     
  11. Jun 6, 2010 at 4:50 PM
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    One more thing, those 5"x4" square steel pieces with holes on each corner are for???
     
  12. Jun 6, 2010 at 5:04 PM
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    +1...I defintiely want to know because mine didn't even come with those things. I did get directions though.
     
  13. Jun 6, 2010 at 5:08 PM
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    Those little black pieces are essentially the new 'nuts' that will go in the bottom. You'll take off the stock side 'wings' down below and use these pieces to bolt into on the bottom. They slide into the bar on the inside. Sorry I can't get any pics but hopefully that helps a bit.
     
  14. Jun 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM
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    These go into the frame. There is a cross-piece on the lower part of the frame with open ends on both sides. If you look at the bottom of the All-Pro bumper you'll see two larger holes where the big bolts go through. These bolts go through a hole in the cross piece on the frame. The plates are threaded so you can tighten them into the bolts.

    Paint them before you put them in or they bleed rust everywhere.
     
  15. Jun 6, 2010 at 5:39 PM
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    Ooh ok, i get it. Thanks for the tip on painting them. Great idea! From reading your post and others i think i got it figured out now. Just gotta do it, unfortunately its sunday, almost 9pm and i still gotta do groceries and get up early in the morning for work. Might have to wait till next weekend before i take the stock bumper off and put the new one on. Can't wait!

    Ooooh and i just picked up my coilovers and new UCA's. Might be getting them on this week as well at my buddies shop. Ohh yeah, its all coming together now!
     
  16. Jun 6, 2010 at 5:40 PM
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    Thanks for chiming in too Kyouto42! Much appreciated!
     
  17. Jun 6, 2010 at 5:41 PM
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    So what about these two steel pieces with threaded holes on the right side of the picture? Where do they go?

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  18. Jun 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM
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    here are the instructions from allpro cant get pics to copy. these may help you


    All-Pro 2005 & Newer Tacoma Front Bumper Instructions


    These instructions are intended only as a general guide for installing All-Pro products. Basic hand tools are needed to install this kit. If you have any doubts or questions about installing these or other parts please call us at the shop 951-658-7077 Monday through Friday, 8am-5pm PST or contact a competent fabricator / mechanic. Do NOT begin installing this kit until you have verified all parts below are included and complete. If you are missing any parts, please stop and call us before beginning.


    PARTS LIST:





    Bumper 2pc center section
    Bumper Reinforcement Brackets (2)
    Bumper left & right end caps
    Bumper center section braces
    Nut plate tabs (2)
    Bolts
    Nuts
    Flat washers
    Lock washers
    Instructions




    • Remove bumper and hardware from box.
    • Align the parts as pictured.

    • Now bolt all pieces together, starting with the two center pieces. The front lip of the lower center section mounts above the bottom lip of the upper section. When bolting the end caps to the center section, ensure the end cap bottom edge fits under the tab on the center section, as pictured below. When assembled properly, all of the flanges of the lower center section will be covered by both the upper center section in the middle, and by the end caps on either side. If the end caps are NOT mounted under the flange, the top of the end caps will rest too close to the plastic body covers under the vehicles headlights and contact them while flexing

    • A pair of reinforcement bracket is included that locks the upper and lower center sections together. These bolt to the upper and lower center sections of the bumper on the outside of the bumper center section and end cap flanges as pictured below.


    • Install fog or driving lights now if desired. We recommend a 4” round light like the PIAA 510 Series we offer, but other models of similar size will work. The OEM fog lights were not designed to fit in the All-Pro bumper.


    • REMOVE RADIATOR GRILLE
    (a) Remove the 2 screws.
    (b) Using a clip remover, remove the 2 clips.
    (c) Disengage the 2 clips and remove the radiator grille.



    • REMOVE FRONT BUMPER COVER
    (a) Apply protective tape to the outer circumference of the front bumper cover, as shown in the illustration.
    (b) Remove the 6 screws.
    (c) Using a clip remover, remove the 7 clips.
    (d) Remove the 2 clips.
    If equipped with factory Fog Lights: Disconnect the 2 fog light connectors.
    (f) Disengage the 2 claws and remove the front bumper cover.


    • REMOVE FRONT BUMPER SIDE SUPPORTS
    (a) Remove the screw.
    (b) Disengage the claw and remove the front bumper side support.



    • REMOVE FRONT BUMPER REINFORCEMENT SUBASSEMBLY
    (a) Remove the 6 nuts and front bumper reinforcement with a 14mm socket.


    • Remove the factory skid plate below the motor and supports underneath it to clear the new All Pro bumper assembly. We recommend installing the All Pro front IFS skid plate to protect the undercarriage of the vehicle in its place
    • Remove the two end caps


    • Now you are ready to install the All-Pro bumper onto the vehicle. First install tabs into the ends of the frame.


    • Now lift the front bumper on to the 6 bolts, it helps to have another person lifting at this point. Tighten all 6 bolts using a 14mm socket & a 6 inch extension. Then tighten the two bolts that go in to the end cap tabs.


    • Measure and mark 1 inch below flush on the fender well plastic

    • Trim along your 1” mark as pictured. Once the fender well is trimmed it can be tucked under the bumper.


    Here is the bumper installed, pictured with the optional light bar hoop and Sol-Tek La Paz lights on top, PIAA 510 fog lights inside the bumper, Warn 9.5XP winch, Master-pull synthetic winch rope and All Pro billet aluminum fairlead. We also offer ¾” D-Ring shackles to fit in the recovery point mounts in the front lower section of the bumper, and a full winch accessory kit by Warn with everything you will need to safely rig your winch for vehicle recovery to a tree, vehicle or other anchor point. If you require any help or would like to add on any of these parts, call our shop at 951-658-7077 and we will be happy to assist you.




    ALL-PRO OFF ROAD 541 N. Palm Ave. Hemet CA 92543 951-658-7077
     
  19. Jun 6, 2010 at 6:38 PM
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    Thanks for the instructions. Unfortunately i just broke another bolt trying to fasten the bracket from the upper portion of the bumper to the lower portion. I think i over torqued it and it broke off in the lower bumper in the threaded portion. Argh, how the hell am i going to get that out now. lol just can't get a break... Think i'm going to leave it for tonight, and try again tomorrow. I'll probably try to use my needle nose pliers to finish screwing the rest of the bolt out. With luck, hope that works.
     
  20. Jun 6, 2010 at 6:59 PM
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    drill the bolt and use an easy out to remove the broken bolt. that is how i would do it. any decent hardware store has easy outs.
     
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