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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Dkurtz42, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. Dec 5, 2018 at 6:26 PM
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    Dkurtz42 [OP] Bill Hwang

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    I have a 4” lift with 33’s. I’d like to frequently rotate tires myself to extend tire wear but my current lift is not tall enough. Anyone have a tried and true suggestion for a taller lift? Something for my personal use only. Doesn’t need to be pro grade.
     
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    Starting Over, Baby Steps...
    I like these and don’t always require the hard bolting and height issues found in post solutions.
    https://quickjack.com/
     
  4. Dec 6, 2018 at 4:30 AM
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    Wow. I like that quick jack. Will take a closer look.
     
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    Unless you have serious alignment problems you should only have to rotate tires every 10K or so. I have had vehicles that I could go 20K before rotation. I have also had vehicles (shitty vehicles) that I had to rotate every 2K.
    FWIW I only rotate this truck's tires every 10K.
     
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  6. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:37 AM
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    Dkurtz42 [OP] Bill Hwang

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    Well, based on some things I've read, even the manufacturer is suggesting a 2500 miles rotation. According to them, normal rotation has shown a typical yield of 40-45k miles. More frequent rotation has shown yields of upwards of 60k miles. I have the Nitto Trail Grapplers. They are about $350 bucks a pop. I'd like to extend the life if possible. Yes, the cost of a lift will outweigh some of those savings, but I'll use the lift for some other things and it will pay for itself over time I think. I'd really like to avoid the dealer for something like tire rotations if possible. Right now, I'd have to use them. I can't get the truck in the air.

    You still disagree with less than 10,000 mile tire rotation even on some of these beefier tires?
     
  7. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:47 AM
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    I rotate my ridge grapplers every 5k. I'd be happy if I got 40k out of these.
     
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    I do a 5 tire rotation every 3k, we'll see what it yields in the long run.
     
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    A light vehicle with road tires and a perfect alignment can get away with longer rotation intervals. Aggressive AT’s and especially mud terrain tires need to be rotated frequently to prevent tire chopping and keep tread depth similar between all four tires. Tire rotations are simple and there’s no reason to have longer rotation intervals.
     
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    Starting Over, Baby Steps...
    The whole point of a tire rotation is to compensate for the wear created by understeer and oversteer. By moving the tires you allow for the wear to be more evenly distributed among the tires. I'm not going into wear issues related to other failures or compensations, or decisions. You can pick a frequency, but honestly... I just look at the front tires and when I start to see edge wear, it's time to rotate.
     
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    Absolutely. It all depends on wear. If they are wearing flat, rotating them frequently is a waste of time. Wait... you paid $350 for a tire? My four tires were $560 total... Cooper AT3's.
     
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    Gotta pay to look pretty!
     
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    This is unusual, but I disagree with you. I follow a strict 5k, along with a rebalance and alignment check.

    Have you ever seen 60k miles on Firestone Destination LE2s with 4/32nds left? I have.
     
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  14. Dec 6, 2018 at 8:11 PM
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    I probably could, but I never run my tires down to that level. I used to do that and I used to get many more flats too. In addition, a tire with 1/8" of tread left is not very good in any condition other than a dry race track.
    Good luck!
     
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  15. Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM
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    Hey, man. I really appreciate that! Bills don't pay themselves. Seriously though, 2/32nds is the legal limit and 4/32nds is considered to be the last point before performance drops off.

    https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=157

    If you click around on the links you'll see where they did some hard testing on 2 vs 4/32nds. Pretty interesting stuff. Modern tire dealer has done some great research on the subject so well.

    No idea why you focused on this point, but whatever, I'll play along.
     
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    This was the best, most stimulating topic on the forum at the time lol.
    Seriously though, I go through a set of tires every year and a half or 40-50K miles. It depends also on what time of year it is, going into snow season or into summer.
     
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    Floor jack and precariously stacked 2x4s? Thats how I usually do it... cuz Im stingy and cheap.
     
  18. Dec 6, 2018 at 9:15 PM
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    That's a ton of miles. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong, but there are some tires (some popular ones on the forum) that can not take 10k rotations (scrubbing is a bitch).

    If the forum is ever dull enough again to debate tires (not brand debate, that's just dumb), I'm your guy.
     
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    Well I get tired of reading posts on why my 4WD takes more effort when turning sharp on dry road, color of truck and octane. Octane is good but beat.

    Wanna discuss 4 versus 5 tire rotation and why they work out exactly the same? I did a write up on that awhile back haha.
     
  20. Dec 6, 2018 at 9:23 PM
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    Link me, I would love to read it
     
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