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need to know: does the OME lift change alignment specs?

Discussion in 'ToyTec Lifts' started by MurphyZ, Oct 9, 2010.

  1. MurphyZ

    MurphyZ [OP] Well-Known Member

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    i was at firestone on Barksdale AFB, after 4 and a half hours for an alignment (life-time, only way to buy) they said that my caster was .4* out of alignment.
    I told them that with my OME lift, top spacers and Light Racing UCA's my alignment will spec on the alignment machine.


    the shop lead said' "Because of your 3in lift, factory spec will not work-even if we spec it, we can not guaranty the alignment. Adding or removing height will cause the factory lift specs to be incorrect."

    i tried to tell them that with the UCA's and the lift that you can indeed spec the alignment to factory standards and that is more than fine.

    he asked for toytec to send him a letter telling him if there were "different" specs for the lift.

    If you would, please send a fax to firestone of Barksdale's store manager, Joel Jackson a letter showing him he is wrong.


    thanks 20k on the lift and no issues

    Murphy
     
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    MurphyZ [OP] Well-Known Member

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    anyone from toytec....

    i need an answer to get an alignment again.
     
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    Yes it does. You want.....

    Camber: 0°
    Toe: 0°
    Caster: 2.4°- 3.1°
     
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    I don't think those are "different" Those are the stock specs IIRC. Without the UCAs you might have trouble getting to those specs- but with them- There should be nothing preventing you from getting the right specs.

    Do you have the specs they DID get for you??
     
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    yes everything is in spec but the turds couldnt get my caster in spec, .4* out right now...
    firestone of barksdale AFB is saying that with a lift they will not garrenty the lifetime alignment...

    ome 3" with LR UCA's this is bull and this isnt the first time appearantly. some others on base say they are screwing with trucks with lifts.
     
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    Light Racing UCA's? Who installed them?
     
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    And were the adjustments made or were they just thrown on?? Those Firestone guys get paid by the job...So they make 40 bucks for every alignment....if your alignment takes 4 hours- They are going to get to a point where they aren't going to try very hard any more.
     
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    The LR UCA's have a additional 2 degrees of caster built in and they are also adjustable 2 degrees in either direction. Your alignment guy should be able to set it pretty much where ever he wants. The specs we recommend are

    Camber: 0 degrees
    Toe in: 0.04 degrees
    Caster is the 2.4-3.1 degrees

    Which way is the caster out of spec?
     
  11. MurphyZ

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    i put them on and i put the flat edge towards the rear adn did the ol roll the truck back with the top nut loose... then had an alignment 6 months ago.

    got new tires and now firestone is being a turd.

    toytec lifts- i love the set up and i have told them that the control arms work, they just did shabby work..

    found my alignment sheet
    camber
    .9* 0.0 .9*
    caster
    2.1* (-.9*) 2.8*
    toe
    -.01* .02*


    for the front of course
     
  12. MurphyZ

    MurphyZ [OP] Well-Known Member

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    as to your specs toytec lifts it looks fine right?

    had another shop do this alignment, told them if they did it i would buy there lifetime alignment...

    and get a refund from firestone
     
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