Need to understand H2 vs H4

Because salesmen don't give a crap about what they sell, they only care that they make a sale. Pure garbage. If you want to meet a saleman that knows the cars he's selling you have to go to a higher end dealer like Porsche, Jaguar and the likes. Amazing the difference in caliber of salesmen. Actually....it's sad. Really sad.

 

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The flaming didn't bother me as I am satisfied with my question and the answers prior to my second post. Thanks guys. The flamers can now go pick on someone else while I happily drive around in H2 I do appreciate the positive helpers.

 

My John Deere saleman told me more about my machine when they dropped it off than the Toyota sales guy. Sadly the JD cost the same as the Taco I brought home.

 

WHAT.. I have been using my AWD for 25k miles...


kiidin...hehehe

 

To the OP, maybe try some weight in the back. Or just be careful. I know my 07 DC LB which should be the heaviest Tacoma on oversize BFG ATs can light 'em up at part throttle in the rain real easy. Remember too that the tires don't work any better under braking then they do under acceleration.


As for the flamers, this kind of question is only going to get worse. Especially for anyone involved in older cars where newer drivers get involved. Cars are getting so idiot proof these days you almost can't hurt them unless you run into/over something. Try shifting a Tacoma into reverse at 50mph. Our '05 Navigator has a rev limit when the brake is on so you can't do a big brake stand. Also newer car features don't help things like it's also got 2wd, 4AWD, 4Hi, and 4Lo settings so you can run it 4AWD on the dry pavement. Plus most '4WD' stuff these days is some AWD crossover/cute ute/car system. If you'd come from driving one of those you wouldn't be used to real 4WD. Same if you go to an old truck from a newer shift on the fly 4wd, you might forget or not know you need to stop.

When was the last time you saw 4 pedals, 2 shifters and some little switches in the front wheels at a dealership? Even now your average new car driving kid probably couldn't even drive an old 4WD truck let alone do it properly. Especially if you left the transfercase in N.

 

I disagree. I bought my Tacoma at a used car mega store and the salesman there told me this was a part time 4x4 and shouldn't use it on dry pavement. I think he did it to protect themselves since they were giving me a bumper to bumper warranty for 6K miles. If I bring it in with broken xfer case I'm to fault.

I even recall the salesman telling me the same thing when I got my Rodeo in '94. I remember that 'cause I didn't believe him and made a point to use it on pavement! When I did I felt drive-line binding real bad in tight turns and it made me think about why...and the lack of a center differential was the obvious reason to me.

Neither tried to explain the differences in how pt 4x4 works vs AWD or ft 4x4 or why pt 4x4 is better on the trail vs AWD...but I doubt seriously a mechanic could either. It wasn't a lesson in trail driving, it was just a CYA caution not to use it on pavement.

 

Very useful multimedia link for first-time 4WD owners. Some folks take this for granted, but this is a good tool for an overview of the fundamentals. This info should be given to new owners by Toyota when they purchase a vehicle with 4WD capability.

 

Ha.. yea. repost that across half the threads... especially those that are complaining their 4wd actuator doesn't work the first time they tried to use it. THe stick and turn out hubs are far superior. Though it is nice to not have to stop and get out.

4h 10 miles a month for lube.. but make sure you take it off before you pull into a parking lot. Regular 90 degree wide arc street turns wont be a problem.

 

WTF???