NEVER MICHELIN AGAIN. Garbage tires.

Definitely premature tire wear caused by mis alignment and or inconsistent tire rotations.

 

Ok we will look at SWIFT 1st. (Sure Wished I Finished Training). or (Swing Wide If Followed by Trailer).And in my experiance women drivers Are some of the most aggressive drivers out there.
Good luck with your tire choice.

 

Pilots are soft treadwear sports car / street class autocross tires.

And they would have great grip to juke a Juke. Which it looks like someone has been doing. Not buying the 'she's a girl' excuse. Young female insurance rates have risen to the level of young male rates for a reason. Risk. She may be a saintly driver. Or not.

Anyway, 42k on a 45k mileage warranty. So you consumed about 93% of the tread wear.

Having experience with the cheapo yoko tells me you'll do well to make 75%.

BTW, that high tread wear number / mileage, on any brand tire, means it has a harder compound rubber to make it last longer. But it also has less grip, forever, both dry and wet.

The compound on tires begins to deteriorate around 2-3 years, and is pretty shot at 4-5 yrs. So the tires need changing for safe grip, regardless of mileage or tread depth remaining. Picking a tire that should be worn down, based on the vehicles mileage use, in about 3 years, is a way to maximize your tire $.

 

Daylight came and pictures available as promised. Not sure is the alignment, although FRONT RIGHT tire has the most wear. Car tracks straight. Will take the pictures to the alignment shop that did the alignment on all our vehicles.

Front Right


Front Left


Rear Right


Rear Left

 

The wear on the RF is indicative of hard cornering to the left. If you've ever run a skid pad, you'll know it's easier to turn hard to the left (driver side) and and stay tight to the cones than turning to the right. Has to do with vision and body roll.

Of course the same is true on cornering on the street. Drivers typically feel more sure of themselves turning left than right.

Unfortunately as a teen dear old dad pointed out the aggressiveness of my driving of mom's sedan with similar, though not as far gone, tire wear. Not from being on a skidpad, on the street.

The wear of the other tires also indicates lack of rotations.

There *may* be an alignment problem, but based on those photos I'd lean towards not.

 

"bad luck" 2x

 

Post pictures of the date codes on all the tires.

 

No point, the wear on the front tires is greater than the rear which means they weren't rotated for a long time.

 

Ding ding ding! But we’ll blame the tires and Michelin.

 

Yea, I am in Arizona too, and Michelins have hot weather issues. I take care of my daughters car too so I get it. I dont buy her tires though, I just change the oil and fix little stuff on a 2008 Toyota Matrix at 190,000 miles and other than maitinance nothing over $50 has ever broke, and I bought that car crashed for $8000 in 2009 with 20,000 miles. Raced motorcycles a long time ago and Michelins would just melt off in this heat, 30 year plus motorcycle mechanic said the same thing about the street motorcycle tires. Sold a commercial tire guy a house 5 years ago and he said the same thing too Michelins dont do well in the heat. After hunting around I landed on Michelin t63's on my KLR and had no problem (made in Thailand) And yes the inside her car is filthy- girls are nasty what can I say. For what its worth the commercial guy recommended Hercules tires and an independent tire distributor told me he never had problems with Uniroyal tires. I bought tires for the wife mini van and got some Chinese brand that was very well reviewed on the Walmart swebsite, mount balance, road hazard for under $300 and they have 40000 miles with no problems.

 

Is it necessary to do an alignment after the new tires are installed?

 

Funny cause everyone I know with high performance cars only run pilot super sports and say they are the best, but I guess they are all wrong, shit I better go tell them cause some guy with a juke is mad he only got 42k out of a set of as3s lol

 

I have Michelin Pilots on my S2000. I'm damn lucky to get 12,000 a set. However, they are not rotated (can't - staggered setup) and they are designed to be sticky and not last long. They are better than the previous sets of Bridgestones I have run.

As for alignments - you should get an alignment only after putting new tires on the car, and only really if you have unequal wear on the tires. If your tires are wearing evenly no need to do the alignment.

 

While I can't shed any light on the OP's specific issue, I can share my own experience with a couple sets of Michelin tires.

I had a 2001 Dodge Cummins 4x4 that came from the factory with Michelin LT M/S tires. After 9 years, and 108K miles, I replaced them shortly before going on an Elk hunt in Colorado. Not because they were worn, they still had close to 1/2 the tread life left, but the sidealls were showing what I thought were a lot of cracks from either age, stress, or "dry rot" (if there is such a thing in tires). I didn't want the tires to blow out due to having my truck fully loaded down for the trip, and also knowing the local roads around the camp sites were extremely rocky and rough.

My wife has a 1998 Rav4 that she bought new, it has some model of Michelin tires. I believe they may well be the original tires.... car has 142K miles on it. Tires still have a good bit of tread, but they are seriously old and should likely be replaced soon anyway.

I would buy Michelin tires again without hesitation, if they made a tread pattern that I liked for my Tacoma (they don't).

 

winner winner chicken dinner, the tires on my car look like this.. why? Because I bought that car to slam around corner (and save fuel from not driving truck), nothing wrong with the tires... it’s your kid.

 

I get my alignment rechecked every 5k on my vehicles when I do my oil change and rotate my tires. If you have a vehicle that you are going to keep for awhile just get a lifetime alignment.


When looking at tires this might help you pick a more suitable tire for your conditions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVOHirZnDps

 

It’s a good idea to get it checked at least. We tend to sell alignments with tire purchases. 85% of the cars are out of spec toe wise.

(we have a lot of pot holes though)

 

I'm gonna have to agree, especially with the wear difference of front to rear. I still remember trying to explain how I only got 15k out of performance tires (don't remember brand, that about 8 years ago). Unless front/rears are different sizes, you absolutely have to rotate, otherwise that kind of wear happens...plus cornering hard.

 

Pretty obvious from the picture the tire is not to blame. Alignment and rotation schedule are most likely, although some cars just eat tires. Sold a BMW because it needed new tires every 25K regardless of what you put on it.

My wife drives more than 40K miles a year. The only tire I will put on her vehicles are Michelins. She gets 50-60K out of them with absolute even wear, which speaks for the tire and the vehicle. Over the last ten years I've bought a lot of Michelins and have never seen a single tire with premature wear.

As far as my daughter's car goes, I try not to put too much blame in what I find on it. I've ridden with her enough to not make any judgments on the car.

 

Tire manufacturers have to make choices. The tires designed for sporty cars have a softer rubber compound to making them real grippy on the road. They really help on wet roads. But they don't last nearly as long as conventional tires. I've heard of some of these tires wearing out in 20,000 miles or less.

They make other tires using a harder rubber compound that will last a LOOOONG time, but you give up some of the sporty handling characteristics. Lots of guys pushing 100,000 miles on some Michelins. The tires on your daughters car seem to be somewhat of a compromise.

The wear on 3 of them seems about right for 42,000 miles. One tire has been abused. Probably driven hard in cornering and not rotated often enough. Possibly run with too little air. I don't see an alignment problem, but it could be part of it.