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NEW 6MT Clutch Pedal Squeak/Creak Noise Revised TSB (T-SB-0112-19)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by 6MTPro, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. Sep 25, 2020 at 11:37 AM
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    Just the tip! Please.

    :eek:
     
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  2. Sep 25, 2020 at 11:38 AM
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    So yeah... it's really not that hard to lubricate the clutch parts. Just slide into the footwell on your back. Use your steering wheel for leverage to slide in there. Then use your fingers and a thin, flat screwdriver to get the grease where it needs to go. I wear gloves so my fingers don't get all messy. Then tear off the gloves so that you can use your steering wheel to get yourself out of there.
     
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  3. Sep 25, 2020 at 12:27 PM
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    This is why I hate hate hate working under the dash of literally anything. My only tip is get on your back, legs straddling the seat, and your ass should be about midway on the seat with your shoulders on the floor. You'll come out with stiff joints and probably a few cramps. But it's the only way I can really reach under there.
     
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  4. Oct 13, 2020 at 2:23 PM
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    I just had mine truck fixed under “t-sb-0112-19-tc1400-1.2w.” The friction point moved way down towards the bottom of the travel and is driving me nuts.

    I see it included replacing the master cylinder. Is the friction point adjustment just the threaded shaft coming out of the mc that attaches to the clutch pedal?
     
  5. Oct 13, 2020 at 2:29 PM
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    There is no engagement point adjustment. The main adjustments are for the switch contacts and the spacing of the pedal arm from the M/C pushrod.

    Typically, if you have an engage point at the end of the throw, then that would indicate air in the system that needs to be bled out. Most folks say that the engage point on the 3rd Gen is a bit high. I agree, but it was easy to adjust to.
     
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  6. Oct 13, 2020 at 2:36 PM
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    Thanks for the info. The friction point moved much closer to the firewall...so maybe I had air in it prior to the service. :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Oct 13, 2020 at 2:39 PM
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    You're welcome.

    I doubt it if you only noticed after the work. The stock engage point being closer to you is no air (nothing compressible). So, the clutch was moving right away. A low engage point is the air compressing before the clutch moves.
     
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  8. Oct 13, 2020 at 2:59 PM
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    That makes complete sense...air is compressible so some of the travel is compressing that air. I guess I’ll bleed it this weekend and see if that gets it back to normal. Thanks again.
     
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    I lay on my right side back and cycle the clutch pedal with my left hand and use those long Q-Tips with my right hand.
     
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  10. Oct 13, 2020 at 3:21 PM
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    I am sure many had asked this question but here it goes again,

    I got the squeak and lubricated the moving parts on the clutch and it is gone.

    why does Toyota offers a full replace with new parts if it’s just a lubrication issue? After 10k miles the white lubricant is gone.. I added more and that’s it... I don’t mind doing it every 5k.

    BUT

    am I missing something here? Why fix a squeak with new parts instead of lubricating?


    Any input is greatly appreciated.
     
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  11. Oct 13, 2020 at 3:30 PM
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    I'm just gonna put on my big boy pants and come clean, I'll take the flame......

    I know brake grease blah blahs blah......

    But I'm not going to the dealer for a TSB (or anything else, preferably) or getting on my goddamn back with a Q tip.....LOL.....I'd end up slipping a disc!

    I stuff a rag over the nearby wiring for overspray, bend over as much as is comfortable (that's not too effing much) and drench that whole sunuvabitch with this anytime that pedal feels wonky or makes a single squeak. I think 3x in 16k now.....pedal is golden.

    20201013_172930.jpg
     
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    You're welcome!

    To get access, you'll have to pull the heat shield. The topmost bolt is a PITA and a lot easier if you pull the cat support bracket.
     
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    Just their way. We have no solid rationale here. But, that is why folks recommend grease over the TSB.
     
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    Yes, I remember that heat shield from when I did the accumulator delete. It wasn’t the most fun thing I’ve done.
     
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    So, you're experienced! :D

    The cat support is tight, but way better than the heat shield.
     
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    Bleeding the clutch fixed it. :thumbsup:
     
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  17. Oct 19, 2020 at 9:00 AM
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    That is great to hear! Good stuff.


    It is sad when the home gamer outshines the pros.

    :cheers:
     
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    I was trying to lubricate before, but squeak comes back in 200 km at average. Finally, serviced under this new, revised TSB. Magic, squeak is gone, clutch works seamless. It was free, under warranty.
     
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  19. Nov 16, 2020 at 9:03 AM
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    So I have searched for an answer with no luck. I had my clutch replaced in my 2019 Tacoma MT 6 speed under TSB 186-12 for the creak. They completed the work and now my clutch pedal sets about 2” higher than my break pedal. You also have to push it down about 2” before the clutch engages. It makes it super uncomfortable to drive because you can’t just rest your heel on the floor board and depress the clutch. I called the dealership who checked with two of their mechanics and they said it’s due to the redesign and there is no adjustment on them to move it back down to where the brake pedal is and remove the slop in it prior to engaging. Is this true? If so I wish I would have never had it changed. It’s so uncomfortable to drive now I’m debating on trading it in. I absolutely hate it. Please help!
     
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  20. Nov 16, 2020 at 9:10 AM
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    Whoa. That sucks and makes no sense.

    You might want get in there and take a look? There is a clutch adjustment section in the Service Manual. Although, the shared one dates from 2016. I think @MOC221_ and @splitbolt have posted up the adjustment section a few times, if you want to search those posts out. Other than it being a tight space, the adjustment is not hard to do.

    There are options to try before trading, like installing an FJ metal clutch pedal? It wouldn't make sense to go back to the pre-TSB parts.


    You do want a bit of travel before the clutch disengages. The 3rd Gen seems to be higher than most that I have driven, but Stock was easy to adapt to. Higher would definitely be less fun though.
     
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