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New Bilstein 8112 Coilovers !

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Despized, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Feb 10, 2020 at 8:19 PM
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    if the instructions say don’t go pass 19 11/32” total length then don’t do it. Max lift is 2” on 2016+.
     
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  2. Feb 18, 2020 at 1:22 PM
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    I've seen and heard of many people going past 2" of lift. I was hoping people who have these installed could chime in on how much lift they've achieved.
     
  3. Feb 18, 2020 at 2:06 PM
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    I got 2.5” with 700# coils. I have a SSO Slimline steel front bumper w/ high clearance wings. Smittybilt X20 winch , steel skids and sliders. Also I am 2 full turns below max recommended adjustment. I probably could have gotten away with 650# coils but I am still thoroughly impressed with the ride of the 8112’s.
     
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  4. Feb 18, 2020 at 2:16 PM
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    I just swapped out the springs to 700lb’ers. They will likely exceed the 2 inches but not by much. The kit came with a small spacer for both the springs at the top and the bump stop... its only 1/8 inch spacer. I guess if about 1 inch of threads give you 2 inches of lift the 1/8 inch spacer would add 1/4 inch if my math is right... so 2.25 total. I’ll be installing in a few weeks. Bilstein says in the 700lb spring install instructions “verify shock length at ride height is less than 19 11/16”. “This is to ensure there is at least 2” of droop travel from static ride height and so the stiffer rebound zone is not being engaged at ride height.” Wtf does that mean?? Setting aside the bad grammar.
     
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  5. Feb 19, 2020 at 5:32 AM
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    K there was an accutune article about spring preload myths etc that would help a little bit with explaining this but it would be a little miss-leading when it came to the 8112 system...

    Since these are bypass shocks (internal) they will have very different characteristics depending where the piston (disc) is inside the shock tube.

    As you move the bottom spring seat up (that lifts the truck height) the shock gets longer in length...
    The longer length moves the piston/disc inside the shock body further down.
    If that disc is too far down it gets into an area where it was designed for more stiffness,
    in this case the rebound from when your tire hits the bottom of a pothole.

    People seem to think the springs compress more as you crank them up. That does not happen until you have cranked them too far...
    Shocks only have X travel, as you move the truck up, there is less down travel in the shock.

    8112's have very different characteristics depending where that disc is in the shock tube.

    So to take the last line you can convert it to layman's terms as;
    "Crank these up too far and the ride will be much stiffer/harder than what was intended"
     
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  6. Feb 19, 2020 at 6:23 PM
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    Thanks! I get it. I have them set fairly high (had a shop do the swap as they were off the truck and those dinky spring compressors just didn't look like a possibilty). Thinking that it maybe easier to reduce lift instead of trying to crank it up if I had to. We'll see if that theory works;) I've gone with the EL096R HD leafs in the back (also to be installed). So 2 inches there with the weight I'll be carrying. Level with a little rake is the goal to account for any settling in the leafs.
     
  7. Feb 27, 2020 at 1:14 AM
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    How much more extended travel are you getting on the ADS compared to stock? I'm on the fence between the 8112s as well.
     
  8. Feb 27, 2020 at 6:05 AM
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    Ext travel is only like 1/2”-2/3” more shock rod, but that equates to more in tire droop. They are great just make sure you get the right coil. I’m over a year in and realize I should have gone with the 14” 650lb coil instead of the 700lb coil

    The 8112’s are an impressive shock for the tech involved. Everyone likes them
     
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  9. Feb 27, 2020 at 6:53 AM
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    Thank you for information, much appreciated. I'm now contemplating exactly that 650lbs or 700lbs the 8112s seem to complement more my style of Off-Roading. I almost can't go wrong at this point between the two.
     
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  10. Apr 24, 2020 at 8:33 AM
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    sooo, who's running dirt 5s with these on? :spy:

    getting some here in the next few days and wanna hear how much chopping went on
     
  11. Apr 25, 2020 at 12:06 PM
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    I'm just here for the pics. And I see your IG account and will add. I want these 8112s badly... I just have to find a way to justify them with myself!
     
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  12. Apr 25, 2020 at 12:26 PM
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    Loving mine still!
    I have a few pics on Instagram off-roading with them @399hunter
     
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    I get hard each time I look at mine. How’s that for justification ? :anonymous:
     
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    hahaha
     
  15. Apr 25, 2020 at 12:43 PM
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    And done!
     
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    All seriousness though, now might be a good time to get a good deal on these ? I was able to haggle a bit when I purchased last year. IIRC I paid 3k for front and rears to my door. Don’t be afraid to ask for a better price. Good luck :cheers:
     
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  17. Apr 25, 2020 at 4:42 PM
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    Good call. Things seem to be lining up for this to happen!
     
  18. Apr 28, 2020 at 5:54 PM
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    Just upgraded to wheelers super bumps for the front, anyone done this? I can’t figure out if I need the spacer for the bumpstop or not with these shocks. Anyone have a compressed measurement of the shock etc?
     
  19. Apr 28, 2020 at 5:59 PM
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    you'll be ok with stock bump stops. i asked the same question a while back, but i did upgrade to the superbumps as well mainly due to trying to fit 35s with them
     
  20. Apr 28, 2020 at 6:02 PM
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    yeah i have been running my 8112’s for over a year on the stock bumps but decided to upgrade. Did you use a spacer? It says over 2” lift ya do and I didn’t see that note until after I threw them on.
     

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