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New documents raise heat on Toyota

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Taco93, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. Feb 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM
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    Taco93

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    Just saw this on Yahoo's website:

    http://ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/22022010/24/f-afp-new-documents-raise-heat-toyota.html

    The sentence that caught my attention was:

    "The company also said it had avoided an investigation into rust problems affecting the undercarriage of its Tacoma pickup trucks."

    I know most of us are having rust issues on the undercarriage of these trucks. Seems like they know all about it but didn't want to do anything about it.

    What do you all think?
     
  2. Feb 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM
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    alex1988

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    They are looking to make a buck like every other motor company, and doing so as cheaply as possible
     
  3. Feb 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM
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    danteisme

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    i think in the not too far future there will be a rust recall on the 2nd gen truck's frames
     
  4. Feb 22, 2010 at 11:53 AM
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    08pretaco

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    ^ they will, if the 2nd gens get a rust recall, find a way to say that with the lift and blah blah it voids the warranty
     
  5. Feb 22, 2010 at 11:55 AM
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    jhodge83

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    wat?
    and per the law, they cannot deny warranty coverage for something unless it directly contributed to what is wrong.
     
  6. Feb 22, 2010 at 11:56 AM
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    ColtsTRD

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  7. Feb 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM
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    do you guys know how many investigations and documents are pending and in effect against other motor companys? a shit ton....
     
  8. Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM
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    I think that if we wait around long enough the government is going to start getting tough on Ford just like they are doing to Toyota. If you think about it they aren't really concerned with any problems over at Government Motor Company (GMC). They are just trying to improve their market share is all.
     
  9. Feb 22, 2010 at 12:54 PM
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    you got that right....shady stuff
     
  10. Feb 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM
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    Damn ... I thought the frame problems were on the 1st generation only. Guess I was wrong!!

    Maybe I won't be keeping my Taco forever after all ... LOL
    :D
     
  11. Feb 22, 2010 at 4:24 PM
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    Ohhh my!!
     
  12. Feb 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM
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    Would spraying your entire frame with Line-X prevent rusting ? Anybody do this yet ? is it even possible ?
     
  13. Feb 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM
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    808matt

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    i would imagine ALL types of vehicles would get rust eventually
     
  14. Feb 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM
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    Gee, a greedy corporation…that’s a new concept.
     
  15. Feb 22, 2010 at 6:07 PM
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    Gee, a greedy corporation motivated by the almighty buck…that’s a new concept.
     
  16. Feb 22, 2010 at 10:12 PM
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    How are they greedy? By providing hundreds of thousands of people around the world with a living and by producing good quality vehicles at decent prices? Get over the liberal "greedy corporation" mantra and maybe you'll learn a thing or two about free market economies and not be so quick to tear down good companies.
     
  17. Feb 22, 2010 at 10:27 PM
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    ^ very well said man
     
  18. Feb 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM
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    Yawn.
     
  19. Feb 23, 2010 at 12:39 AM
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    Toyota is in deep shit. There is a federal case againt the company and certain executives for not disclosing serious proplems that lead to a lot of deaths. I can honestly say that these new Toyotas have certainly gone down in quality over years past. They used to be the best, but they have gotten cheap and have cut corners so their quality and safety have suffered.

    Maybe my next truck will be a Nissan if Toyota doesn't clean their act up. I know I am going to get flamed, but hell my truck rattles and creaks like crazy and I never go offroad with it. I am just glad it is a lease.
     
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    I pretty much believe greed is an observable behavior. There is a fine line between designing out unnecessary cost versus improving your bottom line at the expense of quality and / or safety. A liberal response might be for such transgressions to be blindly forgiven and overlooked as a sudden and unexplained “run of bad luck” rather than a decision where someone is accountable. My objective was not to “tear down good companies”. I believe Toyota is a good company taking the necessary steps to correct a trend of poor decisions. If anything, my statement was a judgmental characterization of an observable behavior – I think Toyota has been cutting corners.

    As an design engineer for a major manufacturing corporation who participates in design reviews regularly, I’ll certainly admit to having plenty more to learn about free market economies, especially in a global market; but a liberal – I think not. Here’s a lessen in free market economies, corporations getting caught making decisions that improve their short term balance sheet and income statements but come back to bite them in the ass happens to the best of them.
     
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