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New KDMAX Performance Tune by @PapaRee and @TWtaco

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by PapaRee, Mar 22, 2021.

  1. May 3, 2021 at 11:03 AM
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    PapaRee

    PapaRee [OP] And now I'll do what's best for me

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    Right.
    I brought mine in for the timing cover oil leak repair under warranty. When I picked it up the guy said "man, your truck runs good, it is quick!"
     
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  2. May 3, 2021 at 11:04 AM
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    Magiriano

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    In layman terms, imagine that a person had Lasik eye surgery.
    At a glance, they look like they have perfect vision, since no glasses or contacts.
    You'll need to do an autopsy to see, under microscope, the laser marks..
    For a regular dealership visit, the tools that the dealership use render the tune undetectable, mostly because Toyota is been using the same platform for 6 years, and it was probably designed another 4-5 years before that.
    If however you need major work done under warranty(replace engine/transmission), my advice is yo have a stock file flashed into your truck before filing a claim for warranty work.
    I tuned my truck as soon as the tune fir the 2021 became available and I have extended warranty.
    I'm doing my best to explain 20 years of research in tuning by using every day examples, so if there's any optometrist trying to split hairs, please don't, I'm not a doctor.
    Cheers!
    Alex with Doekter TUNED
     
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  3. May 3, 2021 at 12:01 PM
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    Phich Porkchop Express

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    Back in 2017 I had an OVTune (v1.04) on my 2017 TRDOR and my ECU ID was 04B03 then.
    I took it to the dealer with the tune installed and they updated me with the TSB for 04B04.
    So, they literally operated directly on my ECU and had not a clue I was running an OVTune.
    Got updated to 04B04 then installed the latest OVTune at the time (1.04r).

    The dealer literally will not know unless you tell them. Period.
     
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  4. May 3, 2021 at 1:24 PM
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    Shellshock King Shit of Turd Island

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    :spy:
     
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  5. May 3, 2021 at 2:04 PM
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    Pnciv66 Well-Known Member

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    Today was the first longer trip since I flashed the premiumLT tune about a month ago for a mostly stock truck. I must say it’s a big improvement from both stock and ovtune 2.0. I find that my personal truck drives better with the ECT button pushed especially on our Louisiana interstates. It does downshift from 6th to 5th for overpasses but it’s not noticeable unless I’m looking at the tach.
    The cruise control is useable now. I’m a very pleased with the tune.
    This drive was about half interstate w a speed around 75-77 and the other half mixed city and hwy driving.
    B750CCB5-C08A-4497-8EDB-ED888B4B439B.jpg
     
  6. May 3, 2021 at 2:13 PM
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    Two Yutes Active Member

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    @PapaRee, big THANK YOU for this tune. I got with @wahoobie yesterday and he flashed my truck with the KDMax 6 SLT. I couldn't be happier, all my hesitation and shifting issues I've experienced over the last year and 10,000 miles are GONE!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!
     
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  7. May 3, 2021 at 2:22 PM
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    good info. Other manufacturers like VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group) seem to use more sophisticated systems that are able to detect it. Mostly through a count that can not be adjusted. Basically the dealer plugs in and that is registered in their system with an ID. Next time it’s plugged in the system knows what the count and ID should be and if it doesn’t match they know it’s been tampered with. Good to know Toyota doesn’t have these abilities.
     
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  8. May 3, 2021 at 4:27 PM
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    Just purchase a new 2021 Pro on Saturday. Only have 150km on the truck. Should I break in truck first.. or go right to tuning it. Can Anyone chime in on there new 2021 after tuning it. Thanks
     
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  9. May 3, 2021 at 4:43 PM
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    jk24

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    tune it now. I tuned it with 500 miles on my 21. Night and day difference.
     
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  10. May 3, 2021 at 5:13 PM
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    Phich

    Phich Porkchop Express

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    Tune it but still follow proper break in procedures :thumbsup:
     
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  11. May 3, 2021 at 5:24 PM
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    @PapaRee How long was your truck down for the timing cover repair?
     
  12. May 3, 2021 at 5:25 PM
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    Such as?
     
  13. May 3, 2021 at 5:33 PM
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    Where there's a will there's a way, lol.
    Ford tried, Cummins locked their ECU, GM followed suit with their Duramax.
    They're still getting bench tuned, except now it costs way more..
    IMHO the warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on at least it wasn't on my last Dodge Ram/Cummins. And yet, I bought the platinum package and tuned it 3 months later.
    Tune is legit.
    Of course one can wait out the warranty or, in my case, all my tune packages come with 30day/lifetime support.
    30 days for older/out of warranty trucks and lifetime support meaning if anyone needs their truck flashed back to stock for extensive warranty work, I'll go to them wherever they are in the province for the cost of my fuel or free within city limits.
    Well worth the extra $100 CAD(about $80 USD).
    I caught a bit of flack over it but my customers keep my lights on.
     
  14. May 3, 2021 at 5:33 PM
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    wiljayhi Two wheel in, my son, Four wheel out

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    Follow vehicle break-in found in the manual.
     
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  15. May 3, 2021 at 5:36 PM
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    McRib

    McRib Thy Sauceynezz!

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    Anyone looking for KDMax in the Augusta GA or Charleston SC area... hit me up!

    :eek:From what I’ve heard, it’s pretty epic.:eek::thumbsup:
     
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  16. May 3, 2021 at 5:36 PM
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    PapaRee [OP] And now I'll do what's best for me

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    3 days.
    Had a 2020 loaner- Cement off road.
    All covered under the 5yr/60k powertrain warranty-- I had one month left.
     
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  17. May 3, 2021 at 5:40 PM
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    Break it in.
    Properly.
    Tune after 1,600 km(1,000 miles), about 3 fuel tanks.
    Fill up one of the 3 tanks with Premium, the other with Regular, doesn't matter in which order.
    I usualluy use Regular with every 3rd or 4th tank Premium, not for the increase octane, but in Alberta, Premium does NOT contain ethanol.
    Hand calculated your fuel mileage for both Premium and Regular.
    Not only you'll be following the proper break in procedure, but you will have a somewhat more accurate base for comparison in terms of both performance and fuel mileage.
    I wish I would've had more time to drive it stock in both cold and warmer weather, but if I hadn't tuned it in March I would've probably ended up selling it to the insurance...

    Alex here with Doekter TUNED
     
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  18. May 3, 2021 at 6:21 PM
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    As per the owner's manual:

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  19. May 3, 2021 at 7:50 PM
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    I'm tempted to get the tune. Can anyone with stock wheels, tires, and lift (or at least near stock) comment on how the gas mileage is? For reference, I'm currently getting an average of 20-21 MPG with the latest TSB on my 2019 sport. The TSB was a night and day difference for me, but the way everyone is making this out to be, this new tune sounds like it will even better! I just don't want to lose gas mileage since I use the truck on the highway quite often.
     
  20. May 3, 2021 at 8:17 PM
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    I have a 19 sport as well(DCLB)w/shell. When I got the TSB update, it made a noticable difference, but still retained some of the qualities that are not desireable, throttle is still a little on the squishy side, shifts are better but still are not optimal. In my case I noticed it actually shifted harder. And the power curve is pretty much the same unevenness.

    After I did the TSB update, i installed 265/70/17 tires( slightly bigger than stock)and a 2"lift. I didn't notice an appreciable difference in the performance after installing those, but my mpgs dropped slightly.

    Last week I got the KDMax tune. It really woke the truck up. Throttle feels like my gen coupe when taking off. Power curve is much more linear. Shifts are way better and smoother. It uses the torque better and holds gears better. As far as mpg's, I am getting better than I was pre-tune( as good as before the tires and lift), but I have only driven less than 50 miles so far, so I can't really speak to that. I do know my mpgs are better and not worse, and i am hoping they will continue to improve over a few tanks of gas.

    Bottom line, the tune is way better than just the TSB update. WAY better. I am a sceptic by nature and wasn't sure about getting it. but after all the raving reviews, i figured i would try it. I am very glad i did. Even if mpg's stay the way they are, I am loving it.
     
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