New Lexus LS will have a twin turbo 3.5 litre V6

Your 3rd gen engine feels like a dud?

 

LOL, guys they will not put a 3.5 L turbo in the Tacoma. Why? Because it's an expensive engine. This is the same reason Ford puts the 2.0 L/2.3 L engine in most of their fleet. It's a cheaper engine with only one turbo.

Yes, the Tundra could see this engine eventually because of it's margins but no way in hell Toyota sticks this in the Tacoma without at least expirementing with a turbo I4 in the truck first.

The Ranger is coming with the Turbo I4. You heard it here first. Some rumors around maybe a Raptor version getting a 2.7 L V6 but nothing confirmed yet. Most of the engine options for the Ranger will be carryovers from the Explorer/Edge lineup.

 

Toyota's lack of engines is also getting to some consumers. There is a reason CRV sales surged lately and it's not just the new design. The ability to go to an upgraded turbo engine makes a huge difference in compact and mid sized SUV's. I expect the mid sized truck market will see the same forces drive sales. Ford will be the first to market with one of these engines and I expect it will win a few awards because of it.

I drove a RAV4, CRV, Escape, and Rogue with my wife over Christmas. We went with the Escape because it was the best combination of ride, handling, and engine power we found. The CRV was close but wasn't nearly as good at passing on the two lane undivided highways you find around here. The RAV4 and Rogue felt extremely sluggish especially if there was a wind. The Rogue actually couldn't get to speed into a 40 mph wind lol. If I was a Japanese vehicle fanboy there is no question I would of went with a CRV. It left the RAV4 in the dust in every catagory except maybe the look on the exterior. Same with the Rogue. My wife fell in love with the look of the high end Rogues but it's lack of substance killed the love awfully fast.

 

They'll never change the power train for just a specific model of a Tacoma. Ever.

If they did, THEN a pro would be an upgrade over a TRD OR

 

That 4.2L engine generates those numbers at 5700-6400 RPM, not even close to low RPM. Thank you for proving my point that turbos need high RPMs and operating within their powerband to perform. This is exactly why people love diesels, they get max power and torque at 2000 RPMs

 

Unfortunately it does. I drove my 2nd gen last night and the 3rd gen this morning. Literately feels like the 3.0 in my 93 4runner until it hits 3000rpm. No low end whatsoever. I am going to switch gas to higher grade and see how it runs next. I also needs to be said my truck has less than 1800 miles on it but I dont think "break in" is like it was back in the day. I am still learning to drive her but so far even when I keep the revs up passed 3500 and running it up to redline I find it very lackluster. I picked the truck up 1500 miles from where I live and drove it home, so that may be a factor as well.

 

nonsense you just need a pair of these to get the power out of your 3.5L

 

Do you know why diesels perform better at lower RPM's?

And no, they don't get "max power" at lower RPM's, they have a higher torque rating at lower RPM's, HP is found on the higher RPM's on ALL engines.

 

I expect the ranger to have some type of hybrid technology. Or at least I hope it does. 35 mpg mid size would be nice.

 

Ive spanked the dog shit out of mine a few times to see what it had. Even dropped it into 1st instead of 4th from 5th once, I just pinned it and banged 2nd gear lol. I actually got a scratch in 2nd but left no rubber. Anyhow at 17mpg average my issues arent being a feather foot lol.

 

Turbos don't need high RPMs to work. It all depends on how the turbo is setup. If there is enough gas exhaust pressure to drive the turbine at lower RPMs then the turbo will make great power down low with a limitation on how well it will do up top. This is what Ford does with their Ecoboost lineup. I could post numbers but instead feel free to hit up wikipedia, the Ford website, or even Wards to get a better understanding of this. Not every turbo gas engine is designed for top end performance anymore. Lots are designed for around town low RPM use. Heck, Ford just put a twin scroll turbo, meaning it has two turbines for different exhaust pressures (ie it's best at two different RPM bands) in the Ford Escape. That's Diesel tech right on a small gas engine giving similar results without Diesel.

Of course as mentioned Diesel is a completely different fuel then gas with a different ignition and combustion cycle but someone already mentioned that.

 

Cylinder pressure, but I'm sure you're itching to answer your own question.

 

Hmm maybe in the future but not initially. There isn't any demand for hybrid trucks because the gains rarely yield mpgs that high. Even the RAV4 hybrid only touches 35 mpg on a good day in real life.

 

So no...you don't know why.

You're not entirely wrong about cylinder pressure. Only half correct.

 

This ^^^

The guy you quoted, quotes the "Fast and the Furious" movie line up in his chatter.

 

Never said they need high RPM to work but they do need higher RPMto to be optimal. Every Dyno I see requires high RPM. I dont care what the theory is at the end of the day even at low RPMS, Turbos do not produce.

 

I only provided half an answer.

 

Thats not the issue. Its the government that is forcing it. Maybe not 35. But even 30 would be nice. Not to mention the instant power electric provides.

 

Don't half ass anything, whole ass everything.

 

so..... it will, or it wont ?