New Tacoma, GM Twins and Frontier Sales Numbers

Sales numbers for October for various makes of trucks:

From Good Car Bad Car: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2015/11/usa-pickup-truck-sales-figures-october-2015-ytd.html



Total number from the GM Twins (total 9474 units) still lower than Tacoma (15,233 units). IMO not unexpected because there is a lot of interest in the 2016 Tacoma and a lot of the early adopters rushed in to buy the truck. In a few more months we will see if this is sustained. Tacoma up 17.1% since last year (same month), GM twins up 373% (Colorado) and 262% (Canyon) since same month of last year.





I know there is going to be some folks who reply to this thread that will put a lot of their opinion and theory to these numbers. Trust me, you can't interpret too much - there are a lot of factors that determine one months numbers (e.g. new model, factory incentives and finance rates, advertising to name a few) You need a lot more data to fully assess any trends.

I think one thing can be noted - the Frontier is hurting bad because of the introduction of the GM Twins and the new Tacoma. If you don't mind the old design then you could probably get a smoking deal on one.

 

I would have expected higher numbers for the Tacoma in October. Could be the low supply keeping sales down somewhat. July and August were better than October with the new 2016 released?

 

Low supply? In the Seattle area there are a few trucks that have been sitting unsold for nearly a month. One of them is the exact model I want actually, I may jump on it.

 

This validates what Mike Sweers was saying in an interview I watched online about Toyotas perspective on sales in the midzie segment with the new competition. More new buyers are being drawn in to the segment in general and because of that Toyota didn't expect Tacoma sales to suffer, but rather improve with more interest in the segment once people got educated on what each truck offered. It's not surprising the Frontier is suffering, not because it's a bad truck, but because it was the only one that hasn't recently been redesigned.

 

I think you're spot on with demand outpacing supply. Once the supply gets built up and dealers actually get inventory thats not all presold the numbers should see an increase.

 

The Tacoma sales figures are up because of all the frantic buying of the 2nd Gens. Once the 2nd Gen well runs dry, it will be interesting to see what the sales are.

 

@LuvTacos What's that you were saying again about October numbers?! Keep drinking the Kookaid buddy.

Tacoma is also up 17.1% from their sales last year. I'd say they are kicking ass and taking no names at this point.

What's even more hilarious is Frontier beating out the Canyon by nearly double and not far behind the Colorado. That's gotta be a kick in the nuts for the twins crowd.

 

You just keep telling yourself that to sleep better at night.

 

Their numbers are up 373% (Colorado) and 262% from last year.....ummmmm

I'm no fan of the GM Twins, but let's call a spade a spade - their #'s should be combined. They are the same trucks except for a few body panels and luxury interior bits.

 

Chevy and GMC had similar supply issues last year that toyota is having right now. So I wouldn't take their numbers too seriously. Next years numbers should be the most accurate to how the market is trending.

 

If it was up 373% and 262% from a respectable number to begin with then you would have a valid point. Combine their numbers all you want, they still fell short by even a further margin than last month.

 

Yup, I guess you're right. Never argue with a fanboy.

 

Every news source is reporting the GM plant is at capacity which is clearly indicated by the monthly sales number being the same within a few hundred units per month.. I'd like to know what the sales numbers would look like if GM was able to produce the same amount of units as Toyota per month.

 

They didn't sell 2013 or 2014 Colorados or Canyons. There must have been some leftover 2012s on the lots last year.

Never mind, those were probably new 2015s.

 

I think @Tunngavik 's original point is the most correct. Don't read to much into these sales numbers. They are what they are. Obviously some things have happened (GM has taken top spot in truck sales over Ford) but the reason for that is multi faceted and would descend into a fanboy pissing match in less time than it takes for a mid sized truck to hit 60 mph for 0 with the pedal to the floor. Same with the Twins versus Tacoma argument.

Taking his own advice, it's not just early adopters pushing Tacoma sales. All truck sales are growing due to external factors (fuel cost, financing, employment rate, etc etc). It's too early to tell what kind of people and why those people are buying either the Tacoma or the Colorado.

 

I'm sure my friend Tunngavik numbers are are correct. Good for you, Toyota had a good month blowing out the old inventory at cost.
Toyota certainly has more capacity at this time. The Tundra so badly under performs that they cant run the plant without some Tacoma production. (sorry about the underline, when I say bad things about the Tundra TW messes with my account.)
They could be ahead next month too.
Gm can not satisfy demand. Another measure of success is "days of supply"
That's how fast the truck stays on the lot. GM continues to win here, we'll see if the consumer notices the difference on the '16 Tacoma, (other than the grille) and Taco's momentum can continue after they are finished giving away the '15s.

 

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