New Toyo Open Country A/T III tire

I suspect this is part of the issue. Truck has never felt aligned. Although the wear on the tread is pretty symmetrical across both front tires. Back tires are fine.

 

I drove home through the worst conditions I've driven in in probably a decade over the past weekend. The Open Country A/T IIIs were absolutely flawless in snow, ice, slush, and wind.

 

Does anyone have the Toyo OC AT3s mounted to the TRD Pro 16x7s? Ideally looking for a picture of a 285/75R16. Thanks!

 

My previous two sets were Falkens, I thought I'd change it up and give the Toyos a try.

First drive says they're every bit as loud as the Falks, but it's immediately smoother. That's probably because I had one wildpeak that never quite balanced correctly.

It'll be interesting to see how they do. I'm kind of liking the new look.

 

I like the 255/75 Toyos. Barely anyone runs them yet. My only complaint of is the LT traction in the wet is not as good as the SL/XL tread I had in the stock 265/65R17 XL size before.

The best thing about Toyos is how ridiculously smooth they are. Even the LT rolls like a highway tire. Super smooth and no balancing issues assuming the tire guy knows what he’s doing. My Falkens I tried shook more than I cared for and they were balanced multiple times even with Road force.

Make sure you air them to 37 cold.

 

Yeah I really have no business running an E tire, this seemed like a good compromise.

Thanks for the tip. I was surprised that the tire pressure calculator came back at 40 psi when the original door sticker said 26. 37 psi seems more reasonable to me.

 

I’m surprised yours said 26. Never seen that on a 3rd gen before. When I do a search on the Sport tires I’ve seen (P265/65R17 29 PSI), I get a conversion of 37 on LT255/75R17. Same for when I do that conversion starting with 265/70R16 SL 30 PSI TRD off-road tires.

Either way, our trucks are the same and 37 should be the cold number. Mine will reach 41-42 on a hot summer day on the highway but it works well and I haven’t felt it was harsh. A little bit harsher than the old tires initially but once I got used them I didn’t find them harsh at all. Good thing is I have like 15K on mine and very little tread wear, so they should last a while.

 

It very well could have been 29. It's cold and I might have grabbed a minimal glance at the sticker in the garage last night.

 

Purchased the P-metric in a 265/70/R17. Trusted Mechanic’s shop where I bought them from set the PSI to 34. Seems to be all good. Going into my 3rd winter with them. So far so good overall. First set of A/T’s ever. Michelins all the time prior. Wanted to try an A/T for the first time. Love the looks, slight lift, 1 mpg hit. I think these Toyo’s made the transition to an A/T easy. Also, being P-metric helped as well. Initially I really was interested in the Falken’s like the cool kids, but the balancing issues I was hearing about put me off.



Yes, stock psi is 29.

 

Not that it really matters that much but technically you’re overinflated by a bit - P265/65R17 @ 29 psi (stock) is capable of 2,149 lbs. your new tires are actually just metric, not P-metric which changes things a bit. The tires you are running are 265/70R17 115T in which the closest match for 2,149 lbs is 2,178 lbs at 28 psi. So to maintain the stock load of the stock tires, you’d want to have the Toyos at 28.

At 34 psi your current tires are capable of 2,544 lbs each which equates to 1,580 additional load capacity.

If it handles and wears fine as-is then it probably doesn’t matter. Maybe worth playing around with if you get bored, but just thought I’d share.

Definitely agree that Toyo makes a fine tire that handles well, similar to a street tire. They definitely make running an A/T not bad at all. I plan to continue running them indefinitely.

 

Hey, thanks for the details. You are correct. They are 115T’s. Good to know about the proper psi. It’s peaked my curiosity and I will experiment with the psi to see if I notice a difference. Dial them in as much as possible for my needs. Didn’t know the difference between p-metric and metric. I’m assuming one is European and one is North American?

 

I don’t know all the details but non-p metrics are often called euro-metric so I’m guessing that name came from overseas and maybe the P version was the North American equivalent. Certainly seems like euro-metric are more popular than p-metric, there are plenty of both but at least in truck sizes, traditionally there will be more available euro metric sizes for one given tire size than there will be available for the p-metric equivalent.

As for what the factory gives you, it seems to be random. Toyota chose P-metric for the sport size and euro metric for the off-road/pro size. No idea why. Both sizes have P and euro options.

 

Maybe it’s a Canadian thing? I think most passenger car tires and SUV’s and some light trucks here are referred to as P-metric? Other light truck tires may be a mix of acronyms?

Toyota Canada has their explanation of tire sizing here.

 

Torn between these AT3’s and K02’s. I drive a 2022 2.7L RWD Auto. I have stock steelies. I like the look of the K02 and I know they are a great tire that last a long time, but these Toyo look really appealing and about $120 cheaper. Plus, I can still run oversized tires without much added payload (want to go from the stock size 245/75r16 to 265/75r16). I can get the Toyo in SL load, where the K02’s are E only. What are everyone’s opinions and thoughts on these tires? How do they do in the snow?

Also, bonus pics if anyone has SR steelies with these, haven’t had a chance to look thru the entire thread yet.

White Letters or Blackwall? What do you prefer the look of?

thanks, -mike

 

What do plan to do the most with your truck? Daily driver?

 

I haven’t run either tire but the K03’s are starting to roll out and they seem to have far superior siping and tread design over the K02’s. They will likely prove to be much better in the snow than both the Toyos and the K02’s. Just some food for thought.

 

I'll have to try and find info on the k03. I was also looking at the Toyo R/T Trail, I like the more aggressive design.

As far as what I do with my truck, I work from home and the truck only goes out for fun. I putt around town, go to the gym, do "daily" stuff like that, but I do like to get out and have some fun, I got it recently so haven't had a chance to yet. I do plan to take it camping, old logging roads, etc. Nothing super crazy like mud bogging or anything lol. It's a 2wd truck but I live where I get off road a lot, and the weather is really random (Michigan), so I like to have good off road grip when I need it.

 

I put AT3’s on my SR this week and love them so far. Very quiet (compared to the Firestone A/S I took off) and light. I wanted to put them on the steelies but the wife vetoed it.

I looked at the KO3’s but the sizes were very limited. They might have more now but I’m happy.

 

Anyone have these tires on Method 703 wheels? Thinking about pulling the trigger on this shopping cart. I am going to go with E load for the more aggressive sidewall, really glad I checked this thread before buying the SL loads. One of the biggest things I wanted out of new tires was a more aggressive look, so E load it is. K02's or Grapplers were my other choices, also looked at the R/T Trail, but seems like more of an off road tire.

Live in MI and my truck is used rarely but want good grip for snow and rain when I do need it. Thanks

Where are people finding these in XL or C loads? Tirerack and others I've checked only have E or SL loads. 265/75/16

 

There is a slight difference between P-metric and metric , with P-metric being the American (or North American) standard. The primary difference is that they use different methods for calculating load rating, with P-metric being more dependent on the tire's air volume than the Euro standard. They are basically interchangeable, but its recommended to use the online tire pressure calculator to confirm that a euro will be capable of the same load rating as a P.