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Newbie Winch Wiring Question

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by IdeaMan, Jan 27, 2020.

  1. Jan 27, 2020 at 7:37 PM
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    I have my Smittybilt X2O wired exactly how OP and the instructions have it. Also have cb radio (fused), sPod, and something else (I forgot) wired directly to the battery. Winched several times, no issues. Its been at least 3 years.

    I am not an expert, but the fuses/relays are protecting your lights. If smittybilt says wire it directly, then dont stray from that.
     
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  3. Jan 27, 2020 at 7:58 PM
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    Copy, thank you; I figured it would be that simple. Sometimes reading all these threads makes me think twice.
     
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    What terminals and battery are you running?
     
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    Sdhq overpriced terminals and an X2 27F
     
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    I love the SDHQ terminals. They are a bit spendy but make it way cleaner
     
  7. Jan 27, 2020 at 8:13 PM
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    I think these were like 150$. When he told me that I was like....for two terminals? They're literally a mile up the road from me too haha.
     
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    I ordered mine off their site for $67 for the pair lol
     
  9. Jan 27, 2020 at 8:33 PM
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    Dude, maybe homeboy charged me twice. Wth!
     
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    Thanks! You may be right... I have the X-20 winch. Instructions/Amp on page 16 here. (a 10k lb max pull requires 415A)

    The one I was looking at had a working current of 300A, with an intermittent working current of 455A. :notsure:
     
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  13. Jan 27, 2020 at 9:18 PM
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    Not sure what the rule of thumb is but I would hate to burn up a switch while winching. Here’s another thread on it that is probably more useful than this one :rofl:https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/winch-power-disconnect-switch-ideas.421661/
     
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    Does anyone know how to wire this switch? Just bought a smittybilt xrc

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    Thanks for the link!

    The switch I was looking at here might be okay as long as I don't max pull for more than 5 minutes: Rating 275A DC Continuous (1hr) , 455A DC Intermittent (5 min), 1250A DC Cranking (10 sec)

    The winch instructions recommend to work for 30 seconds on and then 30 seconds off anyway... :notsure: (10k lb max pull requires 415A)

    Problem I have with the Blue Sea Heavy Duty switch is the 1/2" lugs, compared to 3/8" connector on the winch wire. I'll need to drill out or cut and re-crimp the winch wire to accommodate the 1/2" HD lug, and then I'll need to go from a 1/2" lug connector to the battery's 3/8" terminal.

    Just not sure if the HD switch is absolutely necessary if I'm not running the winch for 5 minutes at a time. Well shit... All that work seems counter-productive considering my last winch went straight to the battery for 10+ years with no issues... :deadhorse:

    Edit: I ended up going for the Blue Sea regular switch in black here (winch reviews are spot-on) and longer 2' cable here.

    Bought the WirthCo switch here (as recommended by @Georgia Native) and protective covers here :thumbsup:
     
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  17. Jan 28, 2020 at 8:26 AM
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    Yeah I think that's going to be perfect for me too. I pulled up the specs here and it looks like 300A continuous, 600A for 5 min, and 1200A for 30 sec. My winch can draw up to 500ish A and max pull so that should be perfect for it.
     
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    You linked the 350 E series, whereas I went with the slightly smaller 300 M series because I liked the protective cover on the back. I'm confident both will be fine as these winches are designed for intermittent use. Interesting article over that explains the differences in winches here, but it doesn't go in depth about Amps. The winch controller "switch" activates the relays, but sometimes those relays can get stuck. So, besides protecting the wire from shorting out, the switch also helps if there is ever a "runaway winch" scenario. :thumbsup:

    Edit: Ended up going with the WirthCo switch here (as recommended by @Georgia Native) and protective covers here :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Jan 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM
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    Edit, confirmed this will work for the purpose of a winch disconnect and ended up buying it :thumbsup: It also has 3/8" lugs. WirthCo switch here and protective covers here
     
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