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No dipstick for automatic transmissions?

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by kauai_diver, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. Mar 7, 2009 at 4:19 PM
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    kauai_diver

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    My uncle and I found it odd that there is no dipstick to check for automatic transmission fluid. Well after googling around I found this place and learned a lot.

    So I just wanted to say thanks and hi, I just joined this site.

    Oh btw I love this truck!!!
     
  2. Mar 7, 2009 at 4:20 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Tranny is "sealed", and, yes, no dipstick. :(
     
  3. Mar 7, 2009 at 4:23 PM
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    kauai_diver

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    Yup sealed and maintenance free for 100,000 miles unless you tow is what I read.
     
  4. Mar 7, 2009 at 4:41 PM
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    Only dipsticks are here giving you advice....No Offense.
     
  5. Mar 7, 2009 at 4:45 PM
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  6. Mar 9, 2009 at 8:09 AM
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  7. Mar 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM
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    Where does this 100,000 mile interval come from? According to Toyota's Scheduled Maintenance Guides (http://smg.toyotapartsandservice.com/) there is no mention of this at that interval. I'm not saying that is bad advise just wondering where everyone got that info.

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  8. Mar 9, 2009 at 8:28 AM
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    chris4x4

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    I was told they are "mantinance free". Everyone I speak with that is familliar with these Sealed transmissions says 100,000 miles is a good time to have them flushed. I can find anything in writeing that touches on the required maint. time line.
     
  9. Mar 9, 2009 at 10:38 AM
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    RE: Transmission Flush

    I would highly recommend against doing any type of trans flush that isn't listed in the factory scheduled maintenance manual. And absolutely do not go to a quick lube place to have this type of work done. When I was younger and living in the barracks where I could not do my own oil changes and car maintenance I would take my Mustang to the Jippy-Lube. I was having an issue with my trany pan leaking so I figured it is probably time to get the fluid changed and a new filter. I took it in to Jippy-Lube and asked them to change my tranny fluid. Instead of dropping the pan and changing the filter and fluid that way, they hooked the cooling lines up to a flush machine and sucked out the old fluid and spit back new stuff. When I asked "Don't you need to change the filter" the said that they didn't have to with this service. Any way, long storry short by the time I got back to the barracks my trans was slipping and ended up being permenantly damaged, and took a total dump about a month later. Jippy-Lube said it wasn't their fault and would not even refund my money let alone buy a new tranny.

    If the dealership says a flush needs to be done, have them show you the paperwork from Toyota that states it needs to be done. If they can't produce the paperwork, don't do it. And no matter what make sure the filter gets changed no matter what service they perform.
     
  10. Mar 9, 2009 at 10:47 AM
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    When I get a tranny flushed, I get the filter changed as well. Request the old filter back (I do this just to be sure they actually change the filter).
     
  11. May 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM
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    Just saw this, thought I'd comment...

    I just wanted to point out that the problems this guy had were because he took it to the Jiffy Boob place, not because he changed his fluid earlier than the factory manual said to. There are literally dozens of such stories around saying the same thing, that some lube place or mechanic screwed up an oil change or ATF change. But it wasn't due to an early fluid change, it was the incompetence of the guy doing the work. Stay away from those places and you're much better off, IMO.

    Personally, I wouldn't let ANY fluid hang around in my rig for 100k, even if the factory said it was OK. This WS fluid wears out just like any other fluid, and needs to be changed sooner than 100k. The sealed trannies are kind of a pain to work with, but changing the ATF can be done if you follow certain guidelines. Both Redline and Amsoil now have compatible fluids for this tranny. The Redline fluid is called D6 and the Amsoil fluid is called ATL.

    One of the posters over at BITOG did a good write up on changing out his WS fluid, here's the link if anyone is interested

    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1378676&fpart=1
     
  12. May 2, 2009 at 8:59 AM
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    What is WS fluid? Is it different than automatic transmission fluid(ATF)?

    Thanks
     
  13. May 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM
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    It's the ATF fluid that Toyota uses in the "sealed" transmissions, supposed to be good for 100k miles. It has a lower viscosity than the T-IV fluid, therefore they are not compatible/interchangable.

    I think the WS is around 5.5 @ 100c and the T-IV is around 7 at the same temp.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2009 at 6:55 PM
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    ws stands for world standard fluid. I think ford also is starting to use it. It's sealed because unlike regular atf which just doesn't like water, ws actually absorbs it out of the air like brake fluid. I'd recommend having it done at a dealership since they have the equipment to exchange the fluid without exposing it to the air. However i'm a dealership tech so i'm probably a little biased.
     
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