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Norcal Spotted and BS Thread

Discussion in 'Northern California' started by PreRunnerSeth, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. Dec 29, 2020 at 4:24 PM
    ian408

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    I find it hard to believe the gear box is done. I'd really have to go with the clutch.
     
  2. Dec 29, 2020 at 4:32 PM
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    For the clutch not to grab at all without warning is really strange.

    Maybe the slave took a dump?
     
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  3. Dec 29, 2020 at 4:45 PM
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    Maybe. But he stated he felt like he was losing power. If the gearbox took a dump, that would be sudden and probably catastrophic.
     
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    I agree. If the gearbox grenaded pushing it wouldn't be happening. A clutch going out can feel like power loss. It's not fully engaging so it's only using some of the available power.
     
  5. Dec 29, 2020 at 5:01 PM
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    yes definitely not the gearbox, you would feel that one immediately. The throw-out bearing & slave cylinder controlling clutch release was my guess because of the initial symptoms he had.
     
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    But it's an 08 and a WRX...so my guess was the clutch plate.

    ShouldagotaHondaCivicTypeR... ha ha ha.
     
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    other that all the ugly plasticky bits all over it, I really like the new Type R:anonymous:. And I have been an avid Honda hater since forever
     
  8. Dec 29, 2020 at 5:09 PM
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    It's a fun car. Except off the line.
     
  9. Dec 29, 2020 at 6:01 PM
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    So, to be more specific on "power loss"

    He drove from our house in Hughson past Ripon (probably 20 miles) with zero issues. He started feeling power loss at highway speed cruising in 5th gear. Then pulled over.

    He had zero issues with power until then, and only had these clutch symptoms after he stopped and then tried to drive again.

    The "power loss" was more of a feeling that the car was kind of bogging down i.e. slowing even though the accelerator pedal was still being applied.... i.e. felt like the car was dragging something.

    @foxrcing07 suggested an interesting thought about if one of the CVs broke. That would apply all of the force to the wheel with least resistance, which would be the broken CV, which would have no resistance, and wouldn't bog the motor.
     
  10. Dec 29, 2020 at 6:18 PM
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    The symptoms are consistent with a clutch failure. When he pulled over, he was able to nurse the car off the road. Yet when he tries to accelerate way, he is unable to. The WRX is all-wheel drive and if there were a broken CV axle, the car would at least move unless it were somewhere aft of the transmission. When the clutch fails and you rev the throttle, you'll usually hear the engine speed increase but vehicle speed doesn't change with the increased throttle. The clutch is making less contact which is why it feels like it's dragging something-in a way, it is. You step on the gas, and all you're doing is spinning the clutch and flywheel with little or no contact. If it were me, I'd get the car home then go sniffing around. You'll probably smell clutch.

    It's difficult to diagnose a failure like this on-line but I would almost bet you're looking at a new clutch. The car is 12 years old and probably hasn't had a clutch replaced yet. Further, if it was a CV axle, you'd have oil all over the place too.
     
  11. Dec 29, 2020 at 6:20 PM
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    Also... and again, I'm no kind of expert at all. But going off of Youtube (Now, I am a Youtube Certified Master Technician just so'ya'know)

    There is absolutely no whine at idle, nor us there a whine when you rev the motor. And pressing/lifting the clutch pedal does not change anything sound wise.

    I'm going off the premise that a throwout bearing causes (can cause) a whining sound.
     
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    Zero smell of clutch... now that we are away from the bums burning plastic trash on the side of the freeway.

    Haven't looked underneath, probably wouldn't be able to see anything right now anyway... but a CV would only have oil/grease if the boots ripped or the shaft came out of the diff. From what I can tell on videos so far, the CV shaft does not go in the diff, like on our trucks. The inner portion of the CV goes on to a shft coming out of the diff and is held in place by a drift pin.

    Would a clutch completely fail out of the blue with no previous signs of slippage? I'm asking cause I honestly don't know.
     
  14. Dec 29, 2020 at 6:34 PM
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    There might have been signs like changes in the pedal feel/engagement. He's driven a long distance as well.

    Hopefully, daylight reveals what's really wrong and that it's not too serious.
     
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    Ok, so 1st gear, clutch out, reved to 2000rpm and speedo doesn't move.

    So I'm thinking that rules out CV. Because the problem would be before the trans/tcase.
     
  16. Dec 29, 2020 at 7:00 PM
    nDub

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    Ive had this happen. Worked great then couldn’t engage the clutch.

    Aso have had a master cylinder go bad and it was the same. Worked great until it didn’t.
     
  17. Dec 29, 2020 at 7:06 PM
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    The only thing about that is, usually the master and slave cylinders only help the clutch-fork to compress the pressure plate splines, which then release pressure on the clutch-disc, thus eliminating the connection between the flywheel and the tranny, so if one of the cylinders is bad, you wouldn't be able to re-engage a gear without serious force or risk of grenading the gearbox. :notsure:
     
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    By the way, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :wink:
     
  19. Dec 29, 2020 at 7:42 PM
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    When my slave went bad I just used the gas pedal to synchronize the gear before shifting. Drove 15 miles home that way. Just put it in neutral if I had to slow near a stop sign. Luckily I didn’t have to completely stop anywhere.

    When my master went bad it was a seal that leaked all the fluid out after I parked it so it was dead in the water next time I went to drive it.
     
  20. Dec 29, 2020 at 7:46 PM
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    The more research I'm doing on this, the more I think it's the clutch... which isn't the end of the world, but it's bad for the timing.

    Kid is on leave from Colorado, and his buddy rode with him to Bakersfield. Between New Years etc, this is going to be hard to get them on the road back to Colorado before the 2nd.

    Why does this shit always happen to me? :facepalm:
     
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