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Not impressed with Coilver and AAL install

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by GiS686, Jul 23, 2010.

  1. Jul 23, 2010 at 6:18 AM
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    GiS686

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    Hi Guys,

    New to the forum, thanks for having me!!

    Ive got a 2007 Tacoma Double Cab, just installed Camburg's uniball UCA's, as well as the 2.5" coilovers (Camburg/Swayaway). Being I am running a front bumper and winch I opted for the heavier duty spring, which is a 700lb spring.

    In the rear, I swapped in a 3 leaf progressive AAL kit with OME shocks.

    Right now I am NOT impressed with the ride and I wonder if there is something I may have overlooked during my install? I've dropped tire pressures to try and compensate but even that hasn't helped.

    Rear of the truck has a topper and bumper as well, if that matters.

    Can you guys give me any tips and advice? I know a bit about coilovers and am tempted to swap to a lighter spring? Comments?

    Help guys!! :(

    Joey
     
  2. Jul 23, 2010 at 6:21 AM
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    Zombie Runner

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    What kind of bumpers are you running?
    did you remove your OL leaf in the back when you put in your 3aal leaf pack?
     
  4. Jul 23, 2010 at 6:23 AM
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    GiS686

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    I removed the overload spring in the rear and replaced with the 3 AAL,

    I have All-Pro bumpers front and rear, front is holding a 8000lb winch.

    Thanks!
     
  5. Jul 23, 2010 at 6:34 AM
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    "Not impressed" is pretty vague, could you be more specific? You said you might switch
    out the springs, so I'm guessing its too rough for you. The heaviest OME springs are
    660, and some people complain about them being too stiff, so your 700s might be a bit overkill.
     
  6. Jul 23, 2010 at 6:38 AM
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    How high are the coils cranked in the front? Different valving for the shocks in the back may be your only other option (after market like fox, icon or king with custom valving) or go with a single AAL and put the overload leaf back in. I really like my Wheelers AAL and it's the single too.

    It's pretty obvious what he meant by not impressed and then his discription after that. :rolleyes:

    What does does OME have to do with the front, he's running SAW's up there?
     
  7. Jul 23, 2010 at 7:19 AM
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    Just providing point of comparison with the OME comment. His springs are stiffer than OME's stiffest, and people complain about the ride on those.

    Drop to a lower spring rate and/or lower your front end a bit. How much do you have those coilovers cranked?
     
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    Sorry, don't mean to confuse OME Old Man Emu with OEM Original Equip. In the rear I have Old Man Emu shocks.

    The front coils have 5/8" preload on them.
     
  9. Jul 23, 2010 at 7:54 AM
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    As Mjp2 said drop to a lighter coil and that may help. I have fox 2.5 remote resi's, I think the spring rate on those are 600lbs or 650lbs, I also have the allpro front bumper and it rides so much better than when I had the OME 886 springs.
     
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    man i dont know how the rear would be stiff..unless your bottoming out alot with that heavy bumper. Im running the 3AAL pack and its a lot smoother than the single AAL with OL leaf in. I have 5100's as well but I think the OME's are suppose to be softer?
    my guess would be from the extra weight your bottoming out?
     
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    I talked to a tech at Camburg regarding the front, he said NOBODY run's a spring lighter than 650lbs but that I could try dropping the Nitro pressure to compensate.

    So tonight will drop PSI from 200 to 150 and see how that effects things.

    I almost think the rear is acting funny in relation to the front. I know I am definitely not bottoming out the rear.

    Thanks guys! Keep up the good work!! :)
     
  12. Jul 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM
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    Good luck and keep us posted. Im currious to see how you resolve this
     
  13. Jul 24, 2010 at 8:55 AM
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    Bled the front CO's down fro 200 PSI to 160 PSI and I noticed a difference. Less abrupt rebound, didn't lose any dampening I dont think.

    The ride got better but I still want to work and tweak this. Defintely going to try for a lighter spring.

    The rear set-up...not sure what I can do there? Upgrade from the OME shocks??

    ALSO have a horrible clunk coming from drivers wheel well during suspension compression. Only sharp hits, cannot get it to replicate in the shop.

    Back to searching,
     
  14. Jul 24, 2010 at 12:02 PM
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    Well, solved the clunk in suspension hah...Loose LCA bolts.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2010 at 12:04 PM
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    Good thing you caught that. Any update on the shocks?
     
  16. Jul 24, 2010 at 2:06 PM
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    Actually it isnt - Before you can identify the problem you generally need more info than - "I put stiff suspension on and now it rides rough"
    As the OP found, and I was alluding to, the rebound setting/valving can have just as much to do with a rough ride as the springs.


    As Mjp2 was nice enough to explain, I was just using those rates as a point of reference.


    Im glad you found those bolts, that could have been really bad.:eek:
    Keep at it, it'll take a while, but once its all dialed in it'll be worth it.
     
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