Not waiting for the hybrid, will there be buyer's remorse?

3rd gen Tundra Hybrid and ICE tow about the same and payloads are about the same. MPG are very much the same too. A lot of ppl get confused about this.

 

I’m not sure why they would care. I wouldn’t think their packet inspection would be very sophisticated.

 

My error! Thanks for the follow-up.

 

This is not a new video, but some things to think about if you are deciding on a Tacoma hybrid or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5j8nJrMc8

 

My lease is up on my 21 and I really wanted the hybrid for the extra power towing my boat. I’m already seeing the over MSRP push start, so I think I’m just going to trade up for non hybrid Tundra. I also have grandkids on the way so the extra room will be nice.

I hope to sign Saturday for a 24 Platinum TRD. It’s more than I really wanted to do but my wife got on board, so hey….

 

Well, Tundras do have some decent (well, relative to invoice anyways) pricing lately in some cases. Don't be fooled by the Tacoma MSRP+ push though. They won't succeed. One dealer here says they will sell at MSRP + $48 doc fees. Still think that is overpriced to be honest given the inflation just from the factory with crap I don't need. I'm reasonably confident most of them will be selling below MSRP before too long. We'll see though but I don't think I'm wrong as Tacomas were priced too high out of the gate.

 

Thanks for this. I will be test driving an Off Road model this week. They don't have the color I want, so it is just butt in seat making sure it is what I want.

I am leaning towards the non Hybrid TRD Off Road. I do also want the capability to tow my 4400lb trailer in the event something happens to my 200 series Land Cruiser. Specs and further research along with the TFL Ike Gauntlet test show it can do that. My 200 series will still be my main off-roader and tow vehicle. But it is good to have two vehicles that can do what you want to do

I have read opinions that towing up a 7% Grade for 8 minutes (Ike Gauntlet), that the Hybrid battery will wear out in a minute or so and then you are stuck with the non Hybrid engine with the extra weight of the Hybrid. I don't think there have been any real tests of this. I read many reviews of the Tundra doing similar runs with no issues. It is a bigger engine to start with, so less work from the Hybrid is required???

Wouldn't the fact the engine is running still provide electricity to the Hybrid? Maybe not full Hybrid capability or some? Does Toyota have any data on this and how it works?

 

Look at the Tundra iForce max. No one is buying this combination. The turbo combined with a hybird battery with the premium price tag is not what people want.

The iForce Max Tacoma's will be the same. The lots will fill up quickly because no one will buy them after the initial craze of buyers.

There are so many YT videos like this below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_RDQwcE3M0

 

I think the MAX is completely pointless. Stock engine already makes a ridiculous amount of power. The hybrid is overkill and gives only 50lbs more towing and less payload. I see no benefit. The stock engine could probably tow significantly more with lower gears, suspension, brakes, cooling upgrades etc.

 

Nope. Plan is to trade in the non-hybrid after a year...or so.

 

I believe its 500 pounds less towing on the Hybrid Tacoma's.

 

You also lose all the under seat storage with the hybrid. I mean probably not a huge deal but given I don't see it will add much I would rather have the storage.

 

Sorry. I was looking at the Tundra specs a few posts above ours. I think my other points are still valid. The Extra power and torque offer no real benefit IMO. At least I don’t think the Max is worth the money.

 

The extra power and torque is exactly why people would want to buy it, lol.

 

I test drove a 2024 Tacoma Offroad non Hybrid today. More power is always better, but I thought it had more than enough power. Interesting that the non Hybrid 2024 Tacoma has more horsepower, similar torque and the same towing capacity as the 100 series Land Cruiser. I am a Land Cruiser guy. Have owned several FJ40's, an 80 series, a 100 series and now a 200 series Land Cruiser. Keeping the 200, the Tacoma would replace my sports car

2024 Tacoma
non Hybrid 278 HP, 317 Tq
Hybrid 326HP 465 tq

100 series 235 HP 320 tq

 

Towing capacity is not just about horsepower and torque.

 

I understand that. The stated Manufacturer towing capacity is the same between the 100 series Land Cruiser and 2024 Tacoma OR. The 100 series is a heavier (~700lbs) vehicle which is better for towing stability

 

Given the availability of mid-size trucks the last couple years, you might as well be talking about buying a unicorn that craps gold nuggets. I gave up on the hybrid when I saw the insignificant increase in fuel economy. It's going to be more than few thousand dollars extra after adding up whatever stupid package you'll have to get with it, and even at $4/gallon it would take several years just to break even on the extra upfront cost. Then there's the "potential" for increased maintenance costs, and less storage in the back. I really wanted the hybrid but unless the price turns out to be way lower than I expect, I can't rationalize it.

 

".....gave up on the hybrid...." But the environment man, you are saving the environment. It's all about the environment, just ask Gretta.

 

".....gave up on the hybrid...." But the environment man, you are saving the environment. It's all about the environment, just ask Gretta.

I know you were joking, but I do consider the environmental impact. I need a truck, but I don't need a full-size, a v8, etc., so I feel like I'm not going crazy disregarding any environmental impact and driving something utterly stupid . I just wish the manufacturers would do what they can. I'm driving a 2016 Colorado Z71 V6 with nearly 190K on it. I've added bigger tires, taken off the air dam (because I nearly ripped it off every time I was off road), and I still average 20+mpg combined, get about 24 mpg on the highway if I'm not driving too fast, and I have had multiple 50 mile bests of 29.3mpg. GM's 2024 Colorado Z71 is rated at 23/19 stock, and more like 21/18 without the air dam. How do they go backwards in fuel economy over 8 years?! The 2016 has been the best truck I've owned in every way, but even though it doesn't make any difference to GM, I'm speaking with my money and not rewarding them for going the wrong direction. Everyone has a different idea of what they want in a truck, I just want something reliable that can haul a fair amount, handle anything I can throw at it off road, and not cost me a small fortune at the pump every few days. I thought the hybrid truck made so much more sense than full electric, but if they are only going hybrid to get more torque, to me that's pretty much the same logic as replacing the six cylinder gas engines with four cylinder engines, and tuning them for more horsepower and torque, but worse fuel economy. At least Toyota managed more torque AND better fuel economy when they replaced their six with the four.