1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

OBD II will not communicate with computer

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Opihi59, Jun 29, 2022.

  1. Jun 29, 2022 at 7:35 PM
    #1
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    My "Maintenance Required" light came on, I figured it due to oil change interval, so I changed the oil but the light would not reset with the usual reset maneuver. I figured it would be a good time to pull codes, but I got a message from the code reader which told me the OBD port was unable to communicate with the computer. Tried doing this multiple times, as well as trying a second code reader.
    I found no fuse problems, all the pins plug in properly, and there is no evidence that a pin "pushes out the back of the connector" when I plug in, so I'm a bit puzzled. It doesn't appear that there are others who have described this problem, so I'm rather curious now as well as stuck. I have previously had no issues on this vehicle in reading codes at all. Please share with me your thoughts.

    2011 Tacoma MT Sport
     
  2. Jun 29, 2022 at 7:58 PM
    #2
    Dm93

    Dm93 Test Don't Guess

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Member:
    #150066
    Messages:
    13,949
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2014 DC OR 6spd 4x4
    Predator tube steps, Ranch Hand grill guard, Magnaflow CatBack exhaust, Toyota tool box & bed mat, 2LO Module by @Up2NoGood, Rearview Compass/Temp Mirror, Tune by @JustDSM.
    Have you checked if you have power on pin 16 of the DLC and ground on pins 4 and 5?
    If those are good you may try a different scanner, if that doesn't work it's probably gonna take an oscilloscope on the data lines to see what's goin on.

    DLC Terminals.png
     
    b_r_o, blu92in99, Jimmyh and 2 others like this.
  3. Jun 29, 2022 at 9:20 PM
    #3
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    @Dm93 Nope, haven't. Didn't know what to check, but you know I will now and get back to you as soon as I can get to this in daylight. Thank you.
     
    Jimmyh, TnShooter and Dm93 like this.
  4. Jun 30, 2022 at 5:24 PM
    #4
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    Okay, checked. Ground has continuity on pins 4, 5, and I have battery power on pin 16. I suppose the plot thickens now.
     
  5. Jun 30, 2022 at 5:27 PM
    #5
    Dm93

    Dm93 Test Don't Guess

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Member:
    #150066
    Messages:
    13,949
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2014 DC OR 6spd 4x4
    Predator tube steps, Ranch Hand grill guard, Magnaflow CatBack exhaust, Toyota tool box & bed mat, 2LO Module by @Up2NoGood, Rearview Compass/Temp Mirror, Tune by @JustDSM.
    Do you have any other warning lights on besides the maint required?
     
  6. Jun 30, 2022 at 5:31 PM
    #6
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    Nope. That's the only light that is on.
     
  7. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:30 PM
    #7
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    Well, reading more into this, at least for the Maintenance required light: In 2011 the background in the gauges went from the orange gauge background to the white gauge background. Those with the Orange background use the Odometer to reset the Maintenance light, while those with the white gauge background must use trip A to reset this light. I have an 11 model. Apparently the ONLY thing which triggers the Maintenance required light is the odometer going 5000 miles since it was last reset.

    This of course does nothing to address my inability to pull codes with my code reader.........willing to accept any insights into this.
     
  8. Jul 3, 2022 at 9:20 AM
    #8
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    OBD work today. I have read the fuse panels, and I suppose I can start pulling fuses and looking at them, but is there a specific fuse for this system anywhere that is the smoking gun fuse? "OBD" 7.5 amp fuse under the hood is fine, but others involved here? Seems it could save me time, and I don't have access to a way to interpret otherwise.

    I have pulled down the harness to the OBD port so I have a little slack and access. All the pins appear intact, they don't push back out of the connector hub, and everything looks good here.

    In checking those grounds in pins 4, 5 position. I put my DVM probe on the pin, and the other end on the Neg battery terminal, and got ZERO ohms which tells me it's continuity. Did I not do that part right somehow? Is there a better way to check for the grounds on pins 4, and 5 so that I am not heading off unhinged down the wrong pathway?

    Appreciate input of course.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2022
  9. Jul 3, 2022 at 9:56 AM
    #9
    Jimmyh

    Jimmyh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2012
    Member:
    #78991
    Messages:
    14,302
    Gender:
    Male
    SC
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prerunner SR5

    If you read Zero Ohms between the ground pins 4 and 5 and the negative battery terminal that is a good reading. If it were defective it would be reading very high or OL.

    Read the DVM between pin 16 and terminals 4 and 5 and you should read battery voltage.
     
  10. Jul 3, 2022 at 10:11 AM
    #10
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    Yep, I've been getting battery voltage when I probe pin 16
     
  11. Jul 3, 2022 at 10:23 AM
    #11
    Jimmyh

    Jimmyh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2012
    Member:
    #78991
    Messages:
    14,302
    Gender:
    Male
    SC
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prerunner SR5

    I wish I had more assistance to give. I wish you the Best! Maybe @Dm93 will pick this back up with some help.
     
    Opihi59[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  12. Jul 3, 2022 at 11:03 AM
    #12
    MR5X5

    MR5X5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2019
    Member:
    #309141
    Messages:
    548
    Gender:
    Male
    Random thoughts. Did you make sure your ODO was on the total miles setting when performing the reset?
    I'd spray some contact cleaner in the OBD connector. Good that it appear so to be working now. I'm guessing no codes or you would have said as much.
    Feels like two separate issue to me...?
     
  13. Jul 3, 2022 at 11:11 AM
    #13
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    Well, my "maintenance required" light, and my OBD disconnect are two separate issues. I solved the Maintenance light by putting the odometer on Trip A, as is required for my '11 MT DCSB Sport. Now that light has been shut off.

    The OBD 2 issue is that I can not get it to link up to read for codes. I have no check engine light on, but was trying to read codes here, and my reader, as well as another reader, both good, will not connect. So at present, I'm trying to figure out why my code reader will not connect.
     
  14. Jul 3, 2022 at 11:21 AM
    #14
    Dm93

    Dm93 Test Don't Guess

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Member:
    #150066
    Messages:
    13,949
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2014 DC OR 6spd 4x4
    Predator tube steps, Ranch Hand grill guard, Magnaflow CatBack exhaust, Toyota tool box & bed mat, 2LO Module by @Up2NoGood, Rearview Compass/Temp Mirror, Tune by @JustDSM.
    Measure the resistance between pins 6 and 14 with the battery disconnected, it should be 60 ohms.

    If you have no other warning lights on I would have to conclude that the module to module communication is good and there's a problem between the DLC and the J9 junction connector.

    2011 CAN Wiring.jpg 2011 Interior Connectors 1.jpg
     
    TnShooter likes this.
  15. Jul 4, 2022 at 7:30 AM
    #15
    MR5X5

    MR5X5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2019
    Member:
    #309141
    Messages:
    548
    Gender:
    Male
    Cool on the light reset. Did not know 2011 procedure used Trip A. Highly recommend cleaning the heck out of both the OBD2 and OBD reader connectors before troubleshooting further.
     
  16. Jul 4, 2022 at 8:42 AM
    #16
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    Okay, probed 6-14 w battery disconnected: 62 Ohms

    Don't know if this is a good thing, or just leads us nowhere..........
     
  17. Jul 4, 2022 at 8:46 AM
    #17
    Clearwater Bill

    Clearwater Bill Never answer an anonymous letter

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Member:
    #140097
    Messages:
    24,916
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Billy
    Largo Florida
    Vehicle:
    '13 5 lug AC w/convenience package
    A few OE parts from fancy trucks
    Will your code reader work in another vehicle?
     
  18. Jul 4, 2022 at 9:19 AM
    #18
    Opihi59

    Opihi59 [OP] Vulgar Boatman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Member:
    #237486
    Messages:
    362
    Beyond Honolulu
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Sport DCSB 6MT
    Unknown lift, maybe 2" I don't know how to ID it, and would rather set it back to stock.
    Yes, code reader works in other vehicles. Thanks for asking.
     
  19. Jul 4, 2022 at 9:38 AM
    #19
    tirediron

    tirediron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2019
    Member:
    #279864
    Messages:
    3,891
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    Victoria, BC< Canada
    Vehicle:
    2022 4x4 Sport, Auto, BCM
    1. What code reader are you using; and

    2. Does it automatically select the comms protocol, does it try all of them, or can you manually select the one you want to use?
     
  20. Jul 4, 2022 at 9:41 AM
    #20
    Dm93

    Dm93 Test Don't Guess

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Member:
    #150066
    Messages:
    13,949
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2014 DC OR 6spd 4x4
    Predator tube steps, Ranch Hand grill guard, Magnaflow CatBack exhaust, Toyota tool box & bed mat, 2LO Module by @Up2NoGood, Rearview Compass/Temp Mirror, Tune by @JustDSM.
    That suggests that the CAN lines are intact at least to the terminating resistors, not really much more you can do at this point without scoping the CAN lines or trying a different scan tool.
    I would be curious if you could talk to the other modules but I'm asuming you just have a basic scanner that can only read PCM codes?
     

Products Discussed in

To Top