1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Odd possible "Issue"

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Tigris99, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Feb 21, 2021 at 11:06 AM
    #1
    Tigris99

    Tigris99 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2020
    Member:
    #343325
    Messages:
    210
    Gender:
    Male
    St Louis
    Vehicle:
    2021 AG Trail edition
    Maybe this is normal with 3rd gen, just need to make sure. If it's something I just need to make sure it starts before letting the key go no big deal.

    First I have a real key not push button thank God.

    Truck really DOES NOT like it when you accidently let go of the key before it fires up.

    Extended crank on second attempt, brief roughness to the idle for a couple seconds sometimes.

    Except one time I was being too quick to turn the key again and it refused to start. Not even try. Finally had to let it sit for about 90 seconds then try and it fired up. That was a couple weeks back.

    Only reason I decided to post is because I just did it again. So thought I'd check just in case. Too used to either older vehicles that don't care are newer ones that even with a key releasing the key on accident too quickly doesn't matter, finishes starting anyway.
     
  2. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:04 PM
    #2
    Tacoma091919

    Tacoma091919 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2019
    Member:
    #305895
    Messages:
    1,052
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tim
    Vehicle:
    2019 OR DCLB
    I noticed the same thing when I tested a MT OR. I was used to my 4Runner where you hit the key once and it will crank until it starts. I hit the key and it didn’t start then I had to let it crank longer than I felt necessary to start after that. Not sure it’s an issue as long as it starts. I ended up getting LB OR and they are AT only with the magic button.
     
  3. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:06 PM
    #3
    RedWings44

    RedWings44 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2020
    Member:
    #326226
    Messages:
    8,060
    Gender:
    Male
    Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2017 Black TRD Off Road 4x4, 2019 MGM 4Runner SR5
    Could have flooded it out a bit. I have the push button so this is never an issue in the first place.
     
    Lt. Dangle, Chew and Superdave1.0 like this.
  4. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:26 PM
    #4
    mhornco

    mhornco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2018
    Member:
    #246496
    Messages:
    529
    Gender:
    Male
    Not sure what it really is but my wife's Subaru is the exact same way. If I screw up the initial start it takes a lot more cranking to fire it up. Her previous one was the same way as well. I must be dumbed down enough so I now have a push button start to avoid that.
     
  5. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:28 PM
    #5
    tirediron

    tirediron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2019
    Member:
    #279864
    Messages:
    3,891
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    Victoria, BC< Canada
    Vehicle:
    2022 4x4 Sport, Auto, BCM
    Some sort of automatic 'clear flood' mode?
     
  6. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:37 PM
    #6
    Bob1971

    Bob1971 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2020
    Member:
    #351041
    Messages:
    849
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tim
    KY
    Vehicle:
    White 2020 Trd OR
    Bed cover, step bars, SCS SR8 wheels
    My 2020 Trd OR does the same thing. I was concerned at first but now I’m like meh whatever. The first time I had to pump the gas to get it to start. It was as if it had ran out of gas. Who knows it may be part of the fuel pump recall or something. My truck is a manual with a regular key just for info.
     
  7. Feb 21, 2021 at 2:27 PM
    #7
    Tigris99

    Tigris99 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2020
    Member:
    #343325
    Messages:
    210
    Gender:
    Male
    St Louis
    Vehicle:
    2021 AG Trail edition
    Ok, perfect. Haven't had any actual issues, mine is a 2021 trail. Just seemed different than im used to, wanted take sure it was just a 3rd gen thing. Thanks guys.
     
    RedWings44 likes this.
  8. Feb 21, 2021 at 2:41 PM
    #8
    OrangeRa1n

    OrangeRa1n Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2021
    Member:
    #353307
    Messages:
    303
    Gender:
    Male
    Houston Area
    Vehicle:
    TRD-Offroad 2021
    I dunno if the key-start Tacomas have ignition systems that will continue to crank if you turn the key to START then ON. My F-150 did, my girlfriend's Corolla does not.

    If it continues to crank when you let go of the key while starting, there should be no difference in the starting operation (it pretty much ignores your key input at that point). Also, most fuel-injected cars cannot be "flooded" unless you have leaky injectors. Not really relevant, but my F-150 would cut fuel if you held the accelerator in while starting; I assume the purpose was to prime the oil pressure (I wonder if the Taco has this, or if you are accidentally doing this). I can see no reason or purpose for Toyota to include a function that cuts spark but not fuel during a start-up.

    If you have long-cranking issues try to turn the key to ON and let it sit for a few seconds to give the fuel pump time to prime. IMO (no offense) this is in your head since the ignition is essentially an automatic switch once you turn it to start.
     
  9. Feb 21, 2021 at 3:18 PM
    #9
    Bob1971

    Bob1971 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2020
    Member:
    #351041
    Messages:
    849
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tim
    KY
    Vehicle:
    White 2020 Trd OR
    Bed cover, step bars, SCS SR8 wheels
    Yeah that’s exactly what I started doing is let it set for a beat before cranking it. I was thinking about this after my last post. I believe the first time I noticed hard starting was after I let it stall while being “dad” and showing my 18 yr old son how to pull out on a hill. Lol It cranked a bunch before starting and I was like crap what did I do? All the while my son sitting over there looking at me like yeah right. It was definitely like it was out of fuel.
     
  10. Feb 21, 2021 at 3:53 PM
    #10
    PasoSteve

    PasoSteve Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2018
    Member:
    #257713
    Messages:
    280
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Denver, CO
    Vehicle:
    2020 Tacoma TRD Off-Road Silver
    SCS Ray 10's, Clazzio Leather Seats with bun warmers.
    I have the same problem with the push to start. Remote start the truck. Open the door which kills the engine. Try and restart and its a hard, stumbling start. One time it just refused to start at all.
     
  11. Feb 21, 2021 at 4:35 PM
    #11
    brandon78lusch

    brandon78lusch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2019
    Member:
    #308678
    Messages:
    4,029
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brandon
    East Carolina University
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD Sport DCSB, 1978 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
    my push button taco does this. I turned it off and on too quickly once and it refused to start for a minute. I've had my engine bog out on start ups before for no reason (Probably an issue on my end because of the fuel pump)
     
  12. Feb 22, 2021 at 12:39 PM
    #12
    RedWings44

    RedWings44 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2020
    Member:
    #326226
    Messages:
    8,060
    Gender:
    Male
    Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2017 Black TRD Off Road 4x4, 2019 MGM 4Runner SR5
    Not usually. But I was more thinking since it is pumping fuel, but hasn't gotten to the point of firing off yet and suddenly it is cut off. But that's just a theory.
     
  13. Feb 22, 2021 at 12:46 PM
    #13
    NC_Pinz

    NC_Pinz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2018
    Member:
    #260295
    Messages:
    224
    Gender:
    Male
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2018 Cavalry Blue TRD Pro
    It is probably that folks need to pause for a bit before you continue the turn from On to Start. With modern vehicles, no need to push the throttle. The computer does the injection...the throttle is controlling the air coming in. We aren't in the old days of the pedal initiating a squirt of fuel from the carb.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top