Official 2017 NCAA Football thread

I agree. I’m sorry, but I don’t want to see a big12 team go into the playoff and play zero defense. The B1G is pretty much out of it.

 

The saying “defense wins championships” is still around because...well...it’s true.

 

@dwalden2 that's hard to argue against. Saban only won national championships at LSU & Alabama, never at any other college. Most coaches could win 10+ games a year with the Bama players...all 5 stars.

@stronghammer send us a few players to MSU this weekend, y'all played alabama tough. This will be another game like Georgia, blow out 1st quarter. The smurfs will look like mini-smurfs this Saturday.

We haven't beat Alabama since they were "Croomed"! Average winning once every 20+ years...

 

The reason I was so matter of fact, is if you look at the statistics of beating a team twice in the same season, its damn near impossible. Also, if we were talking about say, Troy. Would Troy be able to beat both Alabama AND UGA? Add in the "big let down" after big wins, and it truly is almost an impossible task. Plus, UGA would have the chance to truly prepare for Auburn if they come off with a win vs. Alabama. Kirby aint no joke.


Can it happen? Sure.

Is it PROBABLE. No.

Do teams overcome probability? Sure. Just look at Troy, and Mercer (almost).

 

I agree with you that it's damn near impossible, know all too well with playing a team twice in a year. But like you said it's probable, teams beat the statistic all the time. I just notice the matter of factly attitude more so out of the alabama fans I'm around, which is why I choose who I discuss football with more carefully just to not get annoyed lol. Yes yes I know all teams have those fans, but I live in the state of alabama with bama and auburn fans and I can attest that the bama fans are worse to deal with. Just personal experience. I just never understood the boast of confidence in knowledge of something that just isn't concretely predictable lol. I do appreciate your response and you not getting mad at me haha, I meant no harm with any of it.

 

I think it is simply a confidence in the abilities of the players on the Alabama roster, and the confidence in Saban's ability to prepare properly for almost any team.

Almost a "speak into existence" type of talk.

The absolute worst fans are Ohio State fans. Their confidence borders conceit, and it is completely unwarranted. At least Bama fans have multiple natty's to back it up....lol.

 

lol I agree there is stuff to back it up, but I was originally meaning in subjects that aren't even Alabama. like any ol' team you discuss they just KNOW what the outcome will be or what that team is capable of. it just amazes me haha.

I agree also about Ohio State fans, the few I've seen on forums and such are unbearable. I have one great friend that is an OSU fan and he's fine, but aside from him I don't know a great one lol.

I'll even go out to say I hated the LSU fans I was around when I went to a game at Jordan Hare. They were just obnoxious on a level I didn't understand just to each other. Now when I went down to Baton Rouge they were great, so it had to have had something to do with being the visitor.

 

Alabama has a plethora of bandwagon fans....who are complete fucking idiots when it comes to football. I would venture to say, more than any other team simply due to success. And at this point in time, they probably have more haters than any other team. Those two combined make for a very interesting state of valid conversation about football.


Colin Cowherd stated that Alabama has the weakest schedule of any top 5 team. His cohort went on to say that Bama and Wisconsin should be ranked similarly in the bottom of the top ten as they both have weak schedules. Here is where the dumb crept in. He then goes on to say that Wisconsin shouldnt be punished because they scheduled their games years in advance, and couldnt know that teams wouldnt be good or not.

Now, did Alabama not just dismantle a #3 FSU in the first game, on a neutral site? Is it Alabama's fault that FSU crumbled. (Well, actually, yeah it kinda is, because they injured Francois....but...)


I understand the success fatigue surrounding Bama. I had the same feelings toward USC. My only complaint then was that everything on ESPN was about USC. USC, USC, USC, MLB, NBA, NFL, USC, USC, USC, Tennis, USC, USC, USC.


That's not the case anymore. They don't fixate on the top team with 10-15 minutes of stats and dialogue and then mention the other top 10 teams in a 2 minute span. They dissect stats on a LOT of teams....

 

This is well said, it definitely makes valid conversation interesting.

 

So like @stronghammer said Alabama fans always act like their always right and in everything they say without actually looking at the statistics.

 

wait, are you saying that because he is an Alabama fan and he appears to be correct? (and now did I just become a cliché by implying that may assumption my be right?) the never end cycle never ends

 

There have been 24 teams meet in the regular season and then meet again in the Conference Championship. Teams that won the regular season games are 15-9 in the rematch....Meaning statistics show it is not "nearly impossible" but mostly probable.

 

that's your opinion.... oh sorry wrong thread haha

 

I wouldn't say always, but in my experiences it's more often true than not.

I had a guy dog cuss me one time in the gym (devout Alabama fan, not a bandwagoner) when I was discussing the championship game between Georgia and Alabama and I simply said (not to this guy either) "Georgia has a good chance of upset with their passing game since that is typically Alabama's weakness" and he came charging out of nowhere trying to lay statistics on me that their QB sucks and he had thrown like 5 interceptions the previous week and all this stuff so I pulled out my phone and looked up the statistics that I was saying and showed them to him and his final comment was just "well whatever Alabama will still beat the hell out of 'em" or something along those lines. He then proceeded to tell everyone in the gym over the next few weeks I was an obnoxious LSU fan. I had like the gym workers and other members coming to me like "you're our favorite fan to discuss ball with, ignore that guy" hahaha.

 

No...I mean he just said Statistics show this, when in reality statistics show the total opposite.

 

see below...what statistics were you referring to?

pretty good point here...

 

ACC (2 Sweeps, 2 Splits)

2007
Virginia Tech 30, Boston College 16
Boston College 14, Virginia Tech 10 (Week 8)

2008
Virginia Tech 30, Boston College 12
Boston College 28, Virginia Tech 23 (Week 7)

2009
Georgia Tech 39, Clemson 34
Georgia Tech 30, Clemson 27 (Week 2)

2011
Clemson 38, Virginia Tech 10
Clemson 23, Virginia Tech 3 (Week 5)

B1G (1 Split)

2011
Wisconsin 42, Michigan State 39
Michigan State 37, Wisconsin 31 (Week 7)

Big 12 (4 Sweeps, 2 Splits)

1999
Nebraska 22, Texas 6
Texas 24, Nebraska 20 (Week 8)

2000
Oklahoma 27, Kansas State 24
Oklahoma 41, Kansas State 31 (Week 6)

2001
Colorado 39, Texas 37
Texas 41, Colorado 7 (Week 7)

2002
Oklahoma 29, Colorado 7
Oklahoma 27, Colorado 11 (Week 8)

2005
Texas 70, Colorado 3
Texas 42, Colorado 17 (Week 6)

2007
Oklahoma 38, Missouri 17
Oklahoma 41, Missouri 31 (Week 7)

SEC (5 Sweeps, 1 Split)

1999
Alabama 34, Florida 7
Alabama 40, Florida 39 (OT) (Week 5)

2000
Florida 28, Auburn 6
Florida 38, Auburn 7 (Week 7)

2001
LSU 31, Tennessee 20
Tennessee 26, LSU 18 (Week 3)

2003
LSU 34, Georgia 13
LSU 17, Georgia 10 (Week 4)

2004
Auburn 38, Tennessee 28
Auburn 34, Tennessee 10 (Week 5)

2010
Auburn 56, South Carolina 17
Auburn 35, South Carolina 27 (Week 4)

CONFERENCE USA (1 Sweep, 1 Split)

2006
Houston 34, Southern Miss 20
Southern Miss 31, Houston 27 (Week 6)

2007
UCF 44, Tulsa 25
UCF 44, Tulsa 23 (Week 7)



MAC (3 Sweeps, 2 Splits)

1999
Marshall 34, Western Michigan 30
Marshall 31, Western Michigan 17 (Week 10)

2000
Marshall 19, Western Michigan 14
Western Michigan 30, Marshall 10 (Week 5)

2003
Miami 49, Bowling Green 27
Miami 33, Bowling Green 10 (Week 9)

2004
Toledo 35, Miami 27
Miami 23, Toledo 16 (Week 9)

2005
Akron 31, Northern Illinois 30
Akron 48, Northern Illinois 42 (OT) (Week 4)