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Official Colorado HAM and cheese thread

Discussion in 'Colorado' started by Stig, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. Aug 4, 2019 at 12:50 PM
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    There is nothing special about Rugged Radios in terms of frequency operation. They are just a brand, like Yaesu, or Icom, or Baofeng. They operate on ham frequencies and require a license to do so just like the others.

    Your work radios on the other hand are probably limited to FRS/GMRS frequencies on UHF/VHF and do not require a license to operate. These units are physically unable, as programmed from the manufacturer, to transmit outside of those limited FRS/GMRS frequencies. And they were probably only 2 Watt radios because that is the FRS limit.
     
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  2. Aug 4, 2019 at 12:54 PM
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    The radios they use for frac are generally a commercial band, that the frac companies pay to utilize.
     
  3. Aug 4, 2019 at 1:13 PM
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    For the radios at the races, we sign the waiver for (im going to mix this up I know it, sorry) part 80 compliance or something. Basically the event falls under commercial and we waiver to be under them during the events. I don't know the correct mumbo for that, but the gist of it.
    Im aware the baofang is the same thing, I think there are a few others rebranded that are matches as well. I just deal with RR at the races and as we spend more time at other events, RR is in our face a lot more. Cant hand them a Baofang at event and get handed a new one, only reason I view them vs they exact radios under different names.

    But back to it. Under the events we are "legal" because of their licensing, but personal use, like on trail, we are SOL is the general idea?
     
  4. Aug 4, 2019 at 1:14 PM
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    That would make sense. Be in line with us falling under sanctioned events coverage.
     
  5. Aug 4, 2019 at 1:18 PM
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    You aren't SOL, you would just need to get an amateur license in order to use those radios.
     
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  6. Aug 4, 2019 at 1:18 PM
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    Correct, meaning as an unlicensed user (as most of the RR crowd is) Getting license would just encourage a better platform than the handhelds
     
  7. Aug 4, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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    Also wanted to toss in. On the BF you can program more than the RR will allow, including the RR channels. I "know" the MURS stuff isn't regulated and marine channels aren't as well. Is that what some folks use off the radio to bypass? Just trying to understand how this all works together. I know majority of people are not licensed with ham, or under business, but a lot wouldn't knowingly be illegal. So just seeing if they are "cheating" by using other parts of the handheld or what
     
  8. Aug 4, 2019 at 1:36 PM
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    FCC has been cracking down on BF because of their ability to transmit on MURS/FRS/GMRS frequencies out of the box while not being Part 95 certified. I'm not sure how it has all shaken out but it was rumored that newer BF radios would have those frequencies restricted. I think what you are alluding to is people working MURS/FRS/GMRS frequencies on their BF units. And while technically those frequencies don't require a ham license, it is illegal to transmit on them without a Part 95 certified radio, and also illegal to transmit above the 2-4 Watt limits on those frequencies.

    I don't doubt that many people buy these radios and don't even know they are using them illegally.
     
  9. Aug 4, 2019 at 1:45 PM
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    Ah ok, that makes sense. See in all the chatter about them I never see any of that kind of info about that certain part/exception. I had seen last year where there was a big FCC step in involving the cheaper radios and what they are capable of, just didn't know what particularly or how it pertained to the joe shmoe usage. Thanks.
     
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    My 5W Baofeng with enhanced rubber ducky is always scanning whenever I'm driving around. It's not common that I'll hear actual chatter, but I'll pick up a lot of static. I ALWAYS hit static on 172.800. Anyone know what this channel is? Can't seem to find anything on radioreference.com.
     
  11. Aug 20, 2019 at 8:18 PM
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    172.800 is pretty far outside of the amateur bands. It's probably used for commercial/consumer wireless digital microphones or maybe even TV. So, that's why you're hearing static.

    If you have programmed your BF with some local repeaters you should hear chatter driving around Denver very often.
     
  12. Aug 22, 2019 at 6:59 AM
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    I am coming through Denver in about 10 days and I want to program some local repeaters. I tried the link in the first post but it only showed four repeaters. Is there a better source for finding Denver repeaters?

    Thanks in advance, KE0VVZ.
     
  13. Aug 22, 2019 at 7:41 AM
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    https://w0tx.org/repeaters.htm

    https://www.rmrl.org/

    145.145 and 145.310 are both pretty active repeaters in the Denver area.
     
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    Four networks? Or four repeaters?
    The link to a Google drive has lots of Denver area repeaters.
    Says semi-official cotw channel list or something like that.
     
  15. Aug 22, 2019 at 2:51 PM
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    In case you're not familiar with RepeaterBook, here's a link to every listed 2m and 70cm repeater within 75 miles of Denver.

    There are a lot of active repeaters here in the front range. What equipment are you running?
     
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    Look at this monster I just found in the caddy.
    00000PORTRAIT_00000_BURST20190823182605916.jpg
     
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    Hahahahaha. Damn near. 2000.
     
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    I want to petition to change the ham channel list to reflect aprs ......
     
  20. Jan 4, 2020 at 3:54 PM
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    Ok Andy.... What are you on about now?
    You just want a designated channel with the APRS frequency?
     

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