Offroad Testing

In your infinite wisdom you are missing a point here... that Tacoma frame is bending on that video with empty bed.
So your example of loaded Truck or wings with weight of airplane are not really fitting here, are they.
My point was and is, this is empty bed bending so much that you can not have a toper or spare tire carrier on the bed now.
Second point is I am pretty sure 2gen truck did not bend like that .
Bending by design is good, bending because company is too cheap to reinforce frame is bad.

 

First of all, that taco frame is not bending much, if at all. That appearance of bending is 99% wheel articulation. Secondly, an empty plane's wings will still flex a great deal just under its own load. If it's loaded, it will flex more...kind of like that tacoma will. In exactly the same way as the tacoma, it is better for the wing to absorb energy by flexing rather than for that same energy to be absorbed by the point of connection. This is exactly the same as what toyota is trying to accomplish. It's better for the frame to flex than for the welds to snap and the engine to fall out, just like its better for the wings to bend rather than snap off.

 

Folding ariplane

 

I'm pretty sure you can't tell anything about a frame's torsional rigidity, specifically compared to a truck that isn't shown in the exact same conditions, from a god damn picture. Or do you see torque with your eyes?

 

TW has outdone itself. A bunch of keyboard commanders trying to be metallurgists and engineers. What does TW think of the Tundra frame?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NdP0GA3TtGY

The Tacoma video everyone speaks of clearly shows the bed and cab misalignment during articulation. When the suspension is fully compressed in opposite corners the force transfers almost fully to the frame. A strong frame will stay square. This 2016 frame twists. And yes, given the force in the video the frame can be both rigid and non-brittle. Comparing a truck frame (thick steel) to airplanes (thin steel and aluminum) and trees is comical. Without doing in depth research but others posting photos of 2nd gens articulating without twist makes me wonder if Toyota cut out frame stength to save money and weight.

And let's not forget Tacoma frames sure are a gold standard, LOL

http://legalnewsline.com/stories/51...usty-toyota-tacomas-are-essentially-worthless

Go look at some tube buggies. They have zero frame twist and withstand multiple rolls without braking.

And for the record the degree hanging in my wall reads Bachelor of Science Mechanical Engineering and I'm a professionally registered engineer.

 

You should ask for your money back.

 

Educate me. I'm open to discussion.

 

Is this where we start swinging our degree dicks? I have BS degrees in mechanical engineering and aerospace engineering, graduated summa cum laude, and 9 years engineering experience.

Rail buggies and consumer pickup trucks have different design criteria. What is right for one isn't necessarily right for the other. Ride quality, fuel economy, mass production manufacturability, payload, towing, crash testing, etc all matter in a Tacoma and don't matter in a rail buggy. Tacomas aren't expected to roll multiple times, on the other hand. Different design criteria.

 

I have a hard time believing someone has a degree in mechanical engineering and doesn't know that what he described is either mathematically impossible or he's found a substance with a magical young's modulus.

 

I was alluding to the previous posts mentioning the steel can't be rigid without being brittle.

 

I don't have a degree in mechanical engineering, but my swinging dick summa cums laude.

 

It wasn't clear. :shrug:

My basic point is that there is no reason to get bent out of shape based on some picture on these vast internets.

Being a married means my dick summa cums infrequently and quietly when it does. Can't wake the baby on the other side of the house. :grumpy:

 

Great insight. Maybe Toyota can make their frames out of your flacid dick since clearly, rigidity doesn't matter.

 

I thought that was the whole point of TacomaWorld?

 

..."Comparing a truck frame (thick steel) to airplanes (thin steel and aluminum) and trees is comical."......See?.....your argument is flawed here...because trees are neither steel or aluminum.....

.....OK....except maybe the ironwood tree......Shit!.........err......Never mind!.......

...( DAMN!......Monday is feeling farther and farther away by the minute?! )....

 

well i'm a phd candidate in mathematics so you know i'm slaying pussy all day

 

its not brittle, its elastic.

 

As long as it doesn't rust you could make a fortune.

 

A little late, but just for the antonov fans....must watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVC2eWO_nw