Offroad Testing

BlueT · Aug 17, 2015

Konvict KROG said: ↑

Its a camera angle thing in the 3rd gen pic I believe.

I can back you up in the fact that the frame on my 2013 did in fact flex far enough for my topper to touch my cab.

When I get a chance ill get a pic of my 2015 at the same sort of angle for comparison.

The truck in the picture is a stock DCSB correct? I didn't look at the rest of the review yet
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Looks like Toyota fked up, here is a comment from TFL trucks review, looks like that crazy flex now is on purpose.
What a stupid idea, who wheels their truck with empty bed ?
What about if your goign hunting and you have a topper?
WTH Toyota.

The new truck continues to use Toyota’s triple-tech frame design, but it has been reinforced with high-strength steel. The front section of the frame is fully boxed to provide a solid platform for crash protection, engine, and suspension mounting. The middle of the frame is reinforced C-channel to cut down on some weight. And the rear of the frame is an open C-channel to help with suspension articulation.
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mgrande · Aug 17, 2015

Chill out with the frame flex hysteria. Here is a picture of my CB antenna mount and what it did to my cab after the first time wheeling with it. It's hard to tell from the angle, but the frame flexes and that is normal. The alternative would be to make a frame that doesn't flex but cracks under load.

Konvict KROG · Aug 17, 2015

mgrande said: ↑

Chill out with the frame flex hysteria. Here is a picture of my CB antenna mount and what it did to my cab after the first time wheeling with it. It's hard to tell from the angle, but the frame flexes and that is normal. The alternative would be to make a frame that doesn't flex but cracks under load.

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Told ya lol

95 taco · Aug 17, 2015

BlueT said: ↑

In your infinite wisdom you are missing a point here... that Tacoma frame is bending on that video with empty bed.
So your example of loaded Truck or wings with weight of airplane are not really fitting here, are they.
My point was and is, this is empty bed bending so much that you can not have a toper or spare tire carrier on the bed now.
Second point is I am pretty sure 2gen truck did not bend like that .
Bending by design is good, bending because company is too cheap to reinforce frame is bad.
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Actually you're missing the point, but I won't argue with you because people have already explained it very well.

Redgrom · Aug 18, 2015

v1tal1 said: ↑

This is exactly what you want. The whole "stiff bedframe = tuff" is a dumb marketing gimmick. It reminds me of Mad Men when they create an ad campaign where they say of their tobacco, "its toasted." And the tobacco exec says, "No shit, that's how you make tobacco. Every company 'toasts' their tobacco." And Draper says something about how dumb the consumer is and how now other companies won't be able to use the word toasted, they'll have to say "we cook ours too" or "we heat ours up" which sounds horrible in comparison. They won't say anything, they'll just have to accept the customer thinking, Lucky Strike is the only brand that toasts theirs. The biggest plane in the world (Antonov 225) has wings that deflect ("bend") over 16 feet under NORMAL conditions, just by taking off. The most advanced wide-body aircraft in the world has wings that can bend like below. There's nothing wrong with things being designed to flex. In fact, its generally better. Shit, even a tractor trailer is an arc until its loaded. These reverse-engineered dumbshit marketing videos of frame stiffness are idiotic. If you want to know about reliability, skip the anecdotes, skip the contrived "testing", and look at things like % of vehicles on the road and % of vehicles making service requests under 40,000, 100,000, 200,000, and so on. The Tacoma is head, shoulders, torso, and tiny asian dong over the murican competitors (and honda and nissan) in every meaningful category of toughness and reliability. But is it toasted?

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I can't argue with your lodgic but curious how a shell would handle the flex. I know my old she'll frequently gave my cab a love tap or 2. Also to be fair to the op it's not like Toyota has a great track record on the taco frames...

SargeBSA · Aug 20, 2015

Did anybody see that the 3rd generation lost 3 degrees of approach angle from a 35 to 32 degrees.

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