1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Offroading in an '09 with ALSD

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by ttylerr, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. Jul 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM
    #1
    ttylerr

    ttylerr [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    has anybody done any serious offroading with the 09's new Auto LSD?
    not necessarily SERIOUS, but enough to loose traction and get the back/front end spinning?
    I mean.. i would think the Auto LSD would almost be better than a mechanical LSD because it'll be there to help no matter what, not like a mechanical that needs a minimum amount of traction to work.
    any experience?
     
  2. Jul 7, 2009 at 4:02 PM
    #2
    Dark Knight

    Dark Knight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2008
    Member:
    #8006
    Messages:
    9,546
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    NC/SC
    Vehicle:
    Trail Limo
    Icon stuff, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 Trail grapplers, Rigid SR. 20", Yakima Rack, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, ARB Heavy Duty air compressor, ARB Rear Locker, Shrockworks Rock Sliders, ARB Front Bumper, Relentless Fab Rear Bumper w/ custom bed protection, WARN M8000
    auto lsd is sweet, but I just use my e brake as my auto lsd.
     
  3. Jul 7, 2009 at 4:07 PM
    #3
    ttylerr

    ttylerr [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    i thought so. At first i was pretty skeptical about this Auto LSD thing. Until i joined this board i was under the impression that any toyota 4x4 had a rear locker/mechanical LSD (heh you can probably guess how let down i was when i learned the 09's were COMPLETELY OPEN). after some research though i'm pretty confident that the auto lsd will work pretty awesome in the rough :). i'm to scared to do anything with my truck right now cause i still have the crap oem dunlops...
    as soon as i get the cash for my hankooks i'll be trying this out for myself
     
  4. Jul 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM
    #4
    09tacoLI

    09tacoLI Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2008
    Member:
    #10817
    Messages:
    739
    Gender:
    Male
    long island ny
    Vehicle:
    09 off road
    Shrockworks sliders,Shrockworks Front bumper,Warn 9.5xp winch,Toytec Ult.3in,Total Chaos UCAs,AP expo Rear, Fox remote resi shocks Bud built skids,Piaa 7in,Piaa yellow plasma Off road lights.
    Ive used it its cool but if I start slipping I go right to the locker and turn on the A-trac. A-Trac cool if there some traction to be had When I sunk my truck in the mud it didnt even turn on cuz both tires were slipping.
     
  5. Jul 7, 2009 at 6:37 PM
    #5
    ttylerr

    ttylerr [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    yeha no locker here lol otherwise i would just use that
     
  6. Jul 7, 2009 at 10:43 PM
    #6
    SiRMarlon

    SiRMarlon The Photo Ninja!

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Member:
    #11913
    Messages:
    1,031
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Marlon
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    Canon 5D MarkII
    Even though my brother does not have an 09 he did some serious off-roading with his 08 with just LSD...he was getting through some really tough trails as well. Learning to Off-Road with just the LSD and no locker helped my brother out quite a bit! But you only get so far with it...he eventually upgraded to a full on ARB to conquer some of the more harder terrain the LSD could not do...
     
  7. Jul 7, 2009 at 11:53 PM
    #7
    johnecon2001

    johnecon2001 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2009
    Member:
    #16456
    Messages:
    1,019
    Gender:
    Male
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 TRD Sport 4x4 Access Cab
    Downey front skid, Trail Gear U-Bolt flip, Toytec AAL, Total Chaos UCA's, Bilstein 5100's x4 + Eibach adjustable coils, Doug Thorley Long Tube Headers, Custom Rear bumper, TRD OffRoad front tow hook, TRD Trail Team wheels, Federal Couragia M/T 265's, ARB rear locker + on board air (CKMA12), TRD shift knob, Alpine W205, TRD seat covers, Tom Woods 1 Piece drive shaft, Powermaster D2700, Stubbs HD-SKO Sliders.
    Sounds like the story of my life.
     
  8. Jul 8, 2009 at 6:46 AM
    #8
    ttylerr

    ttylerr [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    That's what I'm hoping for.. A few years down the road anyways
     
  9. Jul 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM
    #9
    rmb_crew

    rmb_crew My other ride has 18,400HP!!!!!!

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Member:
    #12837
    Messages:
    6,078
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Jacksonville, FL 30.243103, -81.591007‎
    Vehicle:
    2010 F150 XLT SuperCrew 4X4
    Access larado tonneau, magnaflow exhaust
    I have gone through some pretty nasty mud in my 09. Its great. I have been spinning my tires and kicked on the auto lsd and have been able to pull out of it with alittle maneuvering. but it works great. Just make sure you turn off VSC that will screw you up in a heart beat if u start sliding in mud or something.
     
  10. Jul 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM
    #10
    ttylerr

    ttylerr [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    yes! VSC has nearly killed me (not literally) quite a few times
    nothing worse then trying to get unstuck only to have your engine derate out of the blue
     
  11. Jul 8, 2009 at 2:32 PM
    #11
    rmb_crew

    rmb_crew My other ride has 18,400HP!!!!!!

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Member:
    #12837
    Messages:
    6,078
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Jacksonville, FL 30.243103, -81.591007‎
    Vehicle:
    2010 F150 XLT SuperCrew 4X4
    Access larado tonneau, magnaflow exhaust
    yeah. VSC= bad news for offroading.
     
  12. Jul 9, 2009 at 7:53 AM
    #12
    BeachBoy

    BeachBoy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Member:
    #15819
    Messages:
    641
    Gender:
    Male
    VT & QC
    Vehicle:
    '09 DC LB Sport+Leather
    Icon Extended COs / Camburg UCA / ATX Predator Teflon / Mickey Thompson MTZ / Color-Matched emblems / All-Pro Bumper & skids / Stubbs HD-SKO / Alcans custom leafs / U-Bolt flip / Icon rear resi shocks / Rear Bumper
    Guy that says the VSC si bad either haven't really tried one or did not disengage it or used it properly.

    the auto LSD is awesome. FJs have it since '07 and it works very well (even better if rear is locked but still)

    I have seriously offroaded mine and I'm not even at the first Service hehe

    The auto LSD is really impressive, albeit not a locker... I was able to make it up hills one shot - with a spare front tire i.e. no front traction - where 4x4 open diffs would take multiple tries and locked ones did not all make it one shot.

    You can see hundreds of pictures there. My '09 is the grey double cab long bed

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/thebeachboy/sets/72157620195885189/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/thebeachboy/sets/72157620269099155/

    donT' let anyone with a TRD O-R fool you thinking VSC is crap and the '09 is not capable.
     
  13. Jul 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM
    #13
    BeachBoy

    BeachBoy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Member:
    #15819
    Messages:
    641
    Gender:
    Male
    VT & QC
    Vehicle:
    '09 DC LB Sport+Leather
    Icon Extended COs / Camburg UCA / ATX Predator Teflon / Mickey Thompson MTZ / Color-Matched emblems / All-Pro Bumper & skids / Stubbs HD-SKO / Alcans custom leafs / U-Bolt flip / Icon rear resi shocks / Rear Bumper
    oh and I plan on getting a locker, but I have yet to get towed of somewhere or up something because of my LSD.

    so for now I'm VERY happy with my '09
     
  14. Jul 9, 2009 at 3:47 PM
    #14
    rmb_crew

    rmb_crew My other ride has 18,400HP!!!!!!

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Member:
    #12837
    Messages:
    6,078
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Jacksonville, FL 30.243103, -81.591007‎
    Vehicle:
    2010 F150 XLT SuperCrew 4X4
    Access larado tonneau, magnaflow exhaust
    i said that VSC is crap when trying to offroad bc all it does is apply brakes to a predetermined tire as you slide. i have a SR5 with auto LSD. VSC does nothing for you while offroading but stop you from sliding and killing your momentum. And both of those you need while offroading with a 2WD truck.
     
  15. Jul 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM
    #15
    ttylerr

    ttylerr [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    i find vsc to be very intrusive when trying to do any kind of off roading... i havent gotten into anything heavy yet, but i can't see it helping off road at all heh
    cant wait to get rid of my dunflops and try out some half decent trails :)
     
  16. Jul 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM
    #16
    bigmooze

    bigmooze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2009
    Member:
    #12437
    Messages:
    797
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Richard
    Belle River, ON
    Vehicle:
    2009 4x4 access cab SR5
    Bilstein 5100's all round (0" up front with stock springs), 265/75/16 Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs, K&N 63 Series Aircharger Kit, Flowmaster Super 44 Muffler, Delta Champion Toolbox, fog lights, back-up lights, Sirius satellite radio with PA15-TOY, Midland 1001z CB radio with 2' Firestik II antenna, Weathertech floor mats, AVS sill protectors, Marathon SuperHides Seatcovers (Universal Digital Camo), trimmed front mud flaps, Viair 20005 OBA, Warn W650D driving lights and W650F fog lights on N-Fab light bar, Hi-Lift X-treme jack with off road accessories, TracRac "TracONE" system
    I got stuck in some snow last winter, about 12" worth... since I didn't have a clue about how to use my e-LSD, I ended up digging a lot. Can't wait until I can try again after a year on TW :)
     
  17. Jul 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
    #17
    bigmooze

    bigmooze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2009
    Member:
    #12437
    Messages:
    797
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Richard
    Belle River, ON
    Vehicle:
    2009 4x4 access cab SR5
    Bilstein 5100's all round (0" up front with stock springs), 265/75/16 Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs, K&N 63 Series Aircharger Kit, Flowmaster Super 44 Muffler, Delta Champion Toolbox, fog lights, back-up lights, Sirius satellite radio with PA15-TOY, Midland 1001z CB radio with 2' Firestik II antenna, Weathertech floor mats, AVS sill protectors, Marathon SuperHides Seatcovers (Universal Digital Camo), trimmed front mud flaps, Viair 20005 OBA, Warn W650D driving lights and W650F fog lights on N-Fab light bar, Hi-Lift X-treme jack with off road accessories, TracRac "TracONE" system
    Let me know when you replace them... you're only an hour or so away, I'll come and give it a shot too.
     
  18. Jul 9, 2009 at 6:47 PM
    #18
    Veccster

    Veccster bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,085
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
    Sorry for being naive but I believe my 2009 Double Cab TRD Sport 4x4 has both VSC and LSD...correct?

    What is the VSC?

    Can you turn the VSC off while you off-road but still have the LSD?

    Is there somewhere I can go to find out definitions of all these options?
     
  19. Jul 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM
    #19
    bigmooze

    bigmooze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2009
    Member:
    #12437
    Messages:
    797
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Richard
    Belle River, ON
    Vehicle:
    2009 4x4 access cab SR5
    Bilstein 5100's all round (0" up front with stock springs), 265/75/16 Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs, K&N 63 Series Aircharger Kit, Flowmaster Super 44 Muffler, Delta Champion Toolbox, fog lights, back-up lights, Sirius satellite radio with PA15-TOY, Midland 1001z CB radio with 2' Firestik II antenna, Weathertech floor mats, AVS sill protectors, Marathon SuperHides Seatcovers (Universal Digital Camo), trimmed front mud flaps, Viair 20005 OBA, Warn W650D driving lights and W650F fog lights on N-Fab light bar, Hi-Lift X-treme jack with off road accessories, TracRac "TracONE" system
    Give this a try, more of a review, but has the basic "what's on and off"... the manual is somewhat confusing to many people, myself included, but you should look that up too.
     
  20. Jul 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM
    #20
    Veccster

    Veccster bass turds

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8407
    Messages:
    2,085
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Pittsburgh - The City of Champions
    Vehicle:
    2009 DC V6 TRDsport
    5100's all around - fronts at 1.75", 265/70/17 Bridgestone Revo 2, HID headlights and fog lights, factory skid plate, ss exhaust tip, tube steps, Access roll-up tonneau cover, Redline hood struts, 6 D-rings, seat MagLite, LED dome, fumoto oil drain, DTRL, fog light anytime, Kenwood/Clarion speakers, Pop-N-Lock 5300, LED bed lights and a few other things...
    ^ awesome - thanks! That give me a better idea. So if I want to do donuts in my truck (on snow/ice), I need to hold down the VSC button for 5 seconds?

    That is important to know once winter gets here. I like to play in the large parking lot at work!
     
To Top