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Oh brake rotors, why must you punish me

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by AzPrerunner05, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. Dec 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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    AzPrerunner05

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    Anyone else need to turn their rotors once a week too? Excessive braking or design flaw? I'm convinced that the 4runner braking system would fix this although I've heard vague unspecific reasoning as to why it wouldn't.

    Honestly though, I wouldn't accept a detailed, well though out explanation either. I'm just convinced.
     
  2. Dec 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM
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    There is no reason in hell you should ever have to turn your rotors once a week. You either have defective rotors, which I doubt is the case, or are warping them due to excessively hard braking.

    Do you drive you truck like its a truck, or a sports car? If its the later, you cant blame the rotors for not doing their job. What size tires are you running?
     
  3. Dec 2, 2009 at 10:59 AM
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    Your brake pads are the wrong temperature for the rotors. They're either too soft and depositing material on the rotors or they're too hard and are gouging the rotors.

    Replace rotors and pads with the right combination and you'll never have to worry about it again.

    Say it with me now:
    Call Edwin at RaceShopper.com and order a set of SP Performance slotted rotors and Hawk pads.

    Install, bleed the system, drive hard and enjoy it.
     
  4. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM
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    You caught me, literally about every 8 weeks though. I say treat her like it was your girl friend, abuse her daily, you know she likes it anyways.


    That's the kind of advice I was fishing for, perfomance parts. Didn't think about better rotors, but that's because I don't think often.
    Thanks, it's easier to change rotors than old habits.

    and ok, I'll say it with you "Drive hard and enjoy"
     
  5. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM
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    Uh oh, they don't have 05+ Sp. Anyone know if the old gen design would work? Guessing not
     
  6. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:15 AM
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    imo, getting the rotors turned is a waste of money. better off replacing them. as soon they're warped, they will continue to warp the exact same way even after having them turned and changing brake pads
     
  7. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:16 AM
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  8. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM
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    Did you call? He doesn't update his website very often. We probably have 2-3 dozen folks on this site running the SP rotors, including me.
     
  9. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM
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    Just called and we worked out a setup for my truck.

    Be about $300 shipped from New York. Includes the SP slotted rotors and a pair of hawk pads Not bad considering I pay $30 to get em turned every other month.

    increased braking power by est. 30%
    reduction in warping
    I think it's a good deal. You've at least got me shopping
     
  10. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:43 AM
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    We're good like that around here. :p
     
  11. Dec 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM
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    I know, I even tried to stay away once.

    On a side note, Raceshopper.com had very friendly helpful customer service and I didn't wait on the phone at all. I haven't purchased from them yet but I already like their customer service and the help I received on the phone. :thumbsup: so far.
     
  12. Dec 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM
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    Agreed. After a pair of warped rotors are turned they are compromised from that point forward. I wasted many dollars in the past turning rotors - but no more.
     
  13. Dec 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM
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    I disagree. Turning the rotors is fiine. Most likely the problem (which is typical) is that the rear brakes are not adjusted up properly. They have self adjusters but they never really work right. It is important to adjust up the rear brakes every few months, Otherwise your front brakes are having to an excessive amount of braking. They then get too hot and end up warping. It does help to get crossdrilled rotors that stay cooler. However the main issue is still a lack of the rear brakes functioning properly.
     
  14. Dec 2, 2009 at 3:09 PM
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    This was my original concern and why my original fix was the 4runner disc brakes and booster. I might need a 4 runner axle and all sorts of junk though. If I were to stick with the stock front set up I would very much need more power compensation in the rear, especially on dirt. How can I boost the power of the rear drums
     
  15. Dec 2, 2009 at 8:41 PM
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    Hey, get some SS brake lines while you're at it.
     
  16. Dec 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM
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    Do not convert to rear disc brakes unless you have a ton of knowledge, time, money, and can afford the downtime. Seriously, just don't.

    I've only recently managed to get my system working properly after almost 2 years and it involved pulling the ABS, running new plumbing, converting to manual brakes with an aftermarket master cylinder, and relocating the rear shocks because the rear calipers would rub in the stock location when the suspension articulated.

    After all that my truck still does not stop as well as it did when new and the parking brake barely holds the truck. New pads and rotors and adjust your rear drum brakes periodically and you'll be fine.

    Relative to one another, drum brakes require more pressure but less volume whereas disc brakes require more volume and less pressure. The stock stuff is not designed for rear discs and will need to be replaced and it's unlikely that you'll get all the sensors to communicate properly.

    If you're adamant about it, your best bet up front will probably be to run an FJ Cruiser master cylinder with a custom firewall adapter and pedal linkage. You're on your own at the axle.
     
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