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oil change on tacoma 08

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Fred56, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. Jan 31, 2009 at 9:37 AM
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    Hello,

    I have a 08 tacoma dbl cab 4x4 with skid plate. Do I need to remove the skid plate in order to change the oil?

    Thanks for your help,

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  2. Jan 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM
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    You should have access to change the oil behind the skid plate, center line of the oil pan, towards the rear.
     
  3. Jan 31, 2009 at 10:48 AM
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    Agreed, there is a small access at the rear of the plate, makes it real easy, but you will have to find a way to route the filter drain hose down through the small openings on the plate, so you don't get oil all over it.
     
  4. Jan 31, 2009 at 11:18 AM
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    Just put an old 20 oz. water bottle under the oil filter drain hole. The bottle fits in the area without even holding it while the filter oil drains. This keeps you from attaching a hose and snaking it down past the motor to your oil drain container.
     
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    I got it, thank you all. It was easy to change the oil. I read all the suggestions and watched the video clips, and then decided to change it myself. This is first time that oil has been changed on this tacoma 08. It has 2k on the odometer. I replaced with 5qt of Valvoline premium 5W-30 oil, and I think I need to add half a quart to make sure that has enough oil as it is suggested by toyota. The oil filter is shorter than the oiriginal one. Is that okay? It is Toyota brand, and I asked for Tacoma.

    Thanks
     
  9. Feb 1, 2009 at 8:23 AM
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  10. Feb 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM
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    I have a 2008 V6 engine and have found that If you don't run the engine, there will be no oil in the oil filter so when you remove the oil filter, there won't be any oil mess.

    I recommend having something there to catch it just in case but I have done it this way a few times on my V6 with success.
     
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    Yep, I do exactly the same Hillbilly. I just wedge a water bottle under the oil filter housing drain port - a lot easier than running a long tube, etc. I will be installing a Fumota oil drain valve with my next change. I got the one with a nipple attached so no more mess!
     
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    That sounds kinda scary. Which filters are you using that don't have anti-drain back valves? I thought every spin on filter had them.

    Starting an engine every time and waiting for the oil pressure to build sounds like a recipe for engine damage.
     
  14. Feb 3, 2009 at 11:55 AM
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    OEM Toyota oil filter
     
  15. Feb 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM
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    I use a Mobil 1 and it's always full of oil AFTER I drain the pan.....if your filter is dry, there is a problem.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2009 at 12:31 PM
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    The first 2 oil changes that I did, I ran the engine to heat up the oil and then shut it off to drain the oil. This is how I've always done it on other vehicles. The oil filter had oil in it.

    The next time I changed the oil, with a cold engine (sat all night), I crawled under the truck (no ramps required), unscrew the oil filter and it was dry. I buy the filters right from the dealership.

    I guess that most are going to run the engine before they change the oil.
    Either to get it up on ramps, position the vehicle into garage or driveway or just to get the oil warm.

    Has anyone else tried this? Remove the oil filter with the engine cold?
     
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    I have drained cold oil and then removed the filter (I always remove the filter last) and there has always been oil in the filter. Always. Hot or cold.
     
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    There is two reasons you should change your oil when warm.

    First, most importantly; when the oil is circulated through the engine the harmful acids, heavy particles, and moisture are suspended in the oil. This allows you to drain that matter with the oil change.

    Secondly, the oil flows more easily and will drain the maximum amount of old oil in a reasonable time. Especially when you use a fumoto or other brand quick drain.

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    As for the filter, I use a WIX and it does have the anti-flowback valve.
    I cannot find any data on the Toyota factory filter and since I don't use them, I can't cut one open and find out.
    I really can't imagine an inverted filter not have one, though. Just a SWAG.
     
  19. Feb 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM
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    I've gotten the oil filters from the same dealer every time. They are OEM and sealed. There has to be an explanation for this. I will ask someone there but I doubt they are going to be able to answer my question. The oil must drain out of the filter overnite. I would think that unless does an oil change in this similar manner, they would never know.

    I'm curious to see if this happens on my next oil change also. I will post in about a 1,000 miles or so and do my next oil change.

    Thanks for your reply and input on this.
     
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    If what you say is true, what is happening is that all of the crap that the filter has trapped, is flowing down back into your sump. The reason why all vertical mounted filters must have an anti-drain back valve is to prevent this back flow into the pan when there is no pressure in the system.

    Filters that are mounted vertically but upside down (opposite of your Tacoma) do no need an anti-drain valve since gravity will keep the junk in the filter.

    Every time you start your engine, it is running without any oil pressure, since the oil pump has to fill your filter with oil first. Since all the particles in your filter are being drained back down into the pan, you are also in effect running without any filtration at all. Sell your truck before the engine explodes. :eek:

    Ok, wait a minute...I just saw where you <crawled under the car to change the filter>...My truck has the filter up top, since it is a six. You sig says you have a six...Why are you crawling under the car to change the oil filter???????
     
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