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Oil filter for 2014 double cab 4.0

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Stan76, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. Jun 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM
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    stolleee

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    You all have to be careful when/how you assess filters. Toyota manufactures vehicles, parts manufactures manufacture parts and how they control that varies greatly.
    What does "more media" mean to you? A larger can? More pleats? You should be considering critical elements of filter production which determine performance vs. life.
     
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  2. Jun 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM
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    Plain Jane Taco I have become comfortably numb

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  3. Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM
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    Purolator PL30001 works nicely on the 4.0L, been using them for years.
     
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  4. Jun 14, 2017 at 10:27 AM
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    Despite all the nonsense and bullshit, there are many very smart, very experienced, and very qualified members on this site, many of whom have good common sense, although that is rare indeed. If you hang around long enough and pay attention, you'll see that.

    Generally, I'd say 1st genners are among the best, because they are taking care of older trucks, have very practical concerns and problems to solve, and there is a huge amount of shared experience literally over 2 decades.

    3rd genners. Well, generally...go check out the posts in that forum and come to your own conclusions.

    But these oil threads, OMG. Nothing new here, it has all been covered a million times on this and every other type of vehicle forum, and oil forums, and facebook and wikileaks.
     
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  5. Jul 30, 2017 at 3:39 PM
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    On the Mobil 1 filters: I've been using the M1-209 oversized filter since truck was new 112,000 miles ago. I can walk to an O'Reilly from my house where a dealer is a good 15 miles away therefore Mobil 1 filters it is. I still buy Mobil 1 oil at either Walmart or Costco though. I'll save buying doughnut at the gas station to pay for a M1-209 vs M1-102. Just a little OCD piece of mind having more filter media and it really isn't going to break the bank. With that said I went in last week to buy another filter and the M1 filters have new labeling and an "A" on the model number. How special. I "get" to pay $2 more for this supposed improvement. Marketing at it's finest.
     
  6. Jul 30, 2017 at 6:12 PM
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    Yeah....the A's are rated for 20k miles. The older extended filter was 15k miles
     
  7. Aug 2, 2017 at 8:35 AM
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    You are correct. The "A" was released to coincide with the release of "Annual Protection" oil which is promoted as an oil that can last 20K miles. The filter wasn't rated for 20K miles so they needed to modify it slightly to increase the life claim. Remember, when designing or manufacturing a filter you are always balancing life (miles) with performance. And as a truck owner... how do you know when your filter is in bypass mode? As the filter receives contaminates the pressure increases and each manufacture sets the bypass somewhere between 9psi and 12psi. When it hits that level it bypasses and you are now circulating oil vs. filtering it.

    My point is this... Put a filter on your truck and run it for as long as you want... at some point it stops filtering. The trick is to determine when that is and replace it. When this happens varies greatly....and mostly by you.
     
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  8. Nov 17, 2017 at 9:00 PM
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    Curious if anyone running a larger oil filter would notice any appreciable oil pressure drop using a gauging monitor??
     
  9. Nov 18, 2017 at 4:26 AM
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  10. Nov 21, 2017 at 12:27 PM
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    It just means you are increasing the oil capacity in the system.

    So instead of using 5.5 qt per change, you will waste more money by 1. buying a larger filter (assuming the cost a little more) and 2. needing more oil per change.

    Given that we've seen no headlines on oil starvation or filtration problems on the 1GR in more than a decade...seems pretty f'ing dumb to get all excited about this.

    The only way I could even see starting to justify this is if you are running a supercharger at the upper limits of the performance envelope in extremely dirty conditions all the time. Say, like racing. I think that would amount to far, far, far less than 1% of Tacomas.

    For anyone else, saying "I just like the peace of mind" is, well....I guess Linus really needed his blanky to get through every day, too.
     
  11. Nov 21, 2017 at 1:05 PM
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  12. Nov 21, 2017 at 1:18 PM
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    How much oil you using? 5.5?
     
  14. Dec 24, 2017 at 7:12 AM
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    Next go around I’ll be using Amsoil XL with a Toyota filter. 5K filter change with 10K oil and filter change.
     
  15. Dec 24, 2017 at 8:01 AM
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    I bought a dozen [or ten, can't remember exactly] Toyota oil filters for 1/2 of what Mobil 1 filters would have cost and I've yet to see where ANY filter is any better then Toyota's. And if something oil pressure related takes a crap, well, it'll be hard for Toyota to blame the filter as long as oil changes were done on time and within the recommended mileage.
     
  16. Dec 24, 2017 at 1:37 PM
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    I talked to a lady standing in line who was checking in her truck to get an oil change, when they asked her how many miles she had on the truck she said "like 500,000". I couldn't help but ask "how did you do that". She responded " I just came over here and changed my oil every 5,000 miles". Which meant she also got the stock filter and oil.
     
  17. Dec 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM
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    I bet if you were to cut the larger filter open the filter element doesn't go all the way down to the bottom of the canister. Just because the filter is larger doesn't mean it's a better filter. Buy the OEM filter don't cheap out on your engine. You need to look at the micron rating of your filter
     
  18. Dec 24, 2017 at 7:08 PM
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    Some aftermarket filters either do not have or do not function correctly the anti-drainback valve. The engine will starve for oil on every startup if this feature isn't working or is absent. I use OEM. They are good quality, they work and they are cost effective. A lot of money is wasted on gee-wiz oil filters in my OPINION (which like most, stinks).
     
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