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Ok guys. Cracked frame solutions?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by mxjagracer, Apr 22, 2023.

  1. Apr 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM
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    mxjagracer

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    Saf-t caps? What's the best plates to buy to get welded on the frame?

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  2. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:01 AM
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    That might be worse than it looks, I’d hit it with a hammer to see how bad the rust is in that area
     
  3. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:01 AM
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    Replacing my frame with a donor frame. Having donor frame acid dipped then frame hot dipped galvanized like Toyota should have done. Filed Complaint with National Highway safety Admin. They are conducting an investigation but said may take a few months. File your complaint online!!!!!
     
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  4. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:04 AM
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    Dang! That is a ton of work lol. I wouldn't even know where to start with the acid dip thing!

    Do you have the link to where you filed the complaint?
     
  5. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:05 AM
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    And how did you word it? The fact that your frame wasn't included in the initial recall?
     
  6. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:17 AM
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    It's 19 years old, the NHTSA isn't going to do anything past tell you it's already a known issue and that is IF they bother to ever get back with you.

    Yes, it does suck. A 19 year old vehicle rusts out, unfortunately Taco's frames rust out before their bodies do.
     
  7. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:23 AM
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    Good idea. :cheers:
     
  8. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:29 AM
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    Even Land Rover aftermarket frame manufacturers have done it for decades.

    A 50 year life span isn't conducive to new vehicle sales..................
     
  9. Apr 22, 2023 at 10:34 AM
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    *23 years old ;-)
     
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  10. Apr 22, 2023 at 12:37 PM
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    I was talking about the guy with the 2004 Taco.

    I personally LOVE the gen I body styling, I'd buy that body style over a gen II or III any day of the week. And the round wheel wells are so much better then the II/III it's not even close.
     
  11. Apr 23, 2023 at 4:22 AM
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along
    would you really want to add a few thousand dollars to the base price to hot dip a complete finished frame ?

    The first time anything is then welded your hot dipped galvanized frame is compromised.

    Go back to the older open c channel frames problem solved.

    Since I removed a large section of the bottom of the frame no rust at all on the inside in fact it is still painted.
     
  12. Apr 23, 2023 at 6:36 AM
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    I had similar rust like like this I can post pictures of and I had a local welding shop clean and weld some plates on. Am in talks with them about just building a new frame completely.
     
  13. Apr 23, 2023 at 6:39 AM
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    Just a couple before and after spots.

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  14. Apr 23, 2023 at 6:16 PM
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    nice! that looks like the first repairs done to mine. which now has layers over the layers.

    for the OP: yeah that would be an easy fix if it passes the hammer test. grind it out, weld it up & then plate over it.

    you can tell the type of people we are by whether we use some flat plate, angle iron or buy the fancy patch sections.
     
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    A few thousand dollars? What are you talking about? If he's replacing the frame anyway, the cost of disassembly and assembly are fixed costs. Galvanizing the frame on my truck cost $309 out the door.

    If, for some reason, you didn't plan ahead and you need to weld something to your frame post-galvanizing, you can grind the zinc off the immediate area and coat the affected zone with a zinc-rich product like ZRC after the alteration is made. It won't affect the rest of the frame, unlike a treatment like powdercoat, where one compromised area of the coating will allow moisture to sit behind a hard candy shell and rot out the substrate metal.

    I plated my frame and welded plow mounts to it before the dip:


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  16. Apr 24, 2023 at 3:45 PM
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along
    It would be a few thousand dollars if this was part of the assembly procedure .

    Then of course a mark up at every price till it was billed to the end users at a few thousand dollars .

    I have seen it happen everyone wants there piece of the pie.

    You might have better luck in your area using a cold zinc product here they really never work unless the truck only sees sunshine.

    i agree after the fact with your labor somewhat reasonable to do after the fact
     
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  17. Apr 24, 2023 at 3:57 PM
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    Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about and you have a really tough time admitting that. Thanks for weighing in.
     
  18. Apr 24, 2023 at 4:03 PM
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    Relax.

    People pay over $200 for a simple drain and fill service on their diff or transmission.

    What @Bivouac is saying is that, the complete tear down would cost easily a few grand if you were paying a shop to do it.

    Ask the general public if they know how to inflate their tires to the proper tire pressure, or diagnose a simple no-start issue?

    Most people are not mechanically inclined at all.

    There's one guy recently posting a quote for an engine rebuild on a 5VZ; upwards of $5k for a simple to build/pull/swap motor.

    The way you come off it's as if every person in this forum is expected to know how to do an engine or transmission swap or more not to mention being a full time fabricator with a shop on the side of their house with CNC plasma capabilities, mill, lathe, and more.
     
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  19. Apr 24, 2023 at 4:13 PM
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    I'm not worked up, guy.

    User 'Fireballs' stated that he was having the frame replaced. Not "having the frame replaced contingent upon plating it with zinc." There's very little additional cost and a ton of benefit to galvanizing it when the truck is already blown apart to the extent that's needed for a full frame replacement.
     
  20. Apr 24, 2023 at 4:15 PM
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    Oh yeah for sure.

    I know plenty of guys that'll easily strip a vehicle to bare bone. I had figured he was talking to someone else.

    You're right about the small cost, it's just the tear down and assembly that'll steer people clear of dipping their frame.
     
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