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Old Man Emu setups on 1st gens

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by kyle39, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. Oct 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM
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    Is there any way possible someone that has a DC v6 running 880's and 881's and wheelers 5 leaf springs can post settled measurements from hub to fender flare. I really just want a new suspension with minimal lift but close to level. Thanks in advance
     
  2. Oct 19, 2013 at 3:10 PM
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    Got a question. First I want to say I bought my first toyota yesterday. 2001 Tacoma DC 4x4 Limited 166,000 miles. It has bilstein 5100's front and rear with 880 ome springs in front on lowest setting. Rear has aal only. I want to lift front more . My question is how to do that. From what I understand you have to remove the coil over from truck, compress coil spring, then move clip. Correct???
     
  3. Oct 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM
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    Yes that is correct, you can move the coil seat up to the 1 1/4" setting but ride will probaly suffer or swithch to 881 coils. But you can do this also http://youtu.be/vkVLBOnAifc
     
  4. Oct 19, 2013 at 5:21 PM
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    Good video!!! I would probably go with 882's and leave on stock setting. Would this be close to the same ride height but with better ride quality? I've done alot of suspension lifts on Chevy and jeeps not a lot of coil over stuff. Thanks for all the help!
     
  5. Oct 19, 2013 at 8:11 PM
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    881's will hive about 2" of lift give or take a little. Im not sure what the 882's will give but they are for heavier front ends with bumpers and winches. Wheelers off road gives all of the info on them on their website.
     
  6. Oct 20, 2013 at 6:32 AM
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    Yea the rear is 2 1/2 inches higher than front. So I was shooting for atleast 2 in
     
  7. Oct 28, 2013 at 8:17 PM
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    5100 w/881's @ 0", OME Dakars, OME greaseable shackles, blinker mod......321K and still kickin'
    So I just got finished installing my 5100 w/881 @ 0" and Dakars in the rear. After a ride down the road my truck is measuring 37 1/4" in the front and 40" in the rear. :confused:

    Is this normal? Do the Dakars settle more? Have other people experienced the same rake?

    I do need to add back my camper shell and rack which is about 200lbs and I do think this will help a little. I did think this setup would be more level.

    Also this rides sooooo much better then 235K stock leafs and springs.

    Any expertise would be appreciated.
     
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  8. Oct 28, 2013 at 8:53 PM
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    They will probably settle more. What size tires are you running? Stock, or something bigger? With my 32" tires I'm at 39" up front and 38.5" rear. This is with the ome shocks and 881 coils. I'm also a double cab prerunner and a 4 cylinder. This could account for my higher front end.
     
  9. Oct 28, 2013 at 8:59 PM
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    Put the camper back on, the springs will settle a good bit.
     
  10. Oct 29, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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    5100 w/881's @ 0", OME Dakars, OME greaseable shackles, blinker mod......321K and still kickin'

    I am running 31x10.5 KM2. I am going to get it aligned and put the shell back on it and see how it settles. I'll measure it after a few trips to the hills.

    You know when you have an idea in your head and it does not turn out like you thought it would. That is kinda where I am with this but I think I just freaked out after installing it:eek:. LOL
     
  11. Oct 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM
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    It will settle a lot with the shell on it. Don't worry.
     
  12. Oct 31, 2013 at 6:19 PM
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    Pardon the crap photos, once I get her back from the shop for alignment and a few other little things, I'll post better pics... This is the full ome package served up by wheelers. I also added a diff drop (glad I did) and subbed ome 882's instead of 881 or 883. Not sure this was the best idea, and perhaps I should have heeded their advice and gone with 883.

    Got vibes around 45... Very worried about the cost of fixing this.

    After the front:

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    After rear - note the bro lean... Not stoked about that:
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1383268681.064969.jpg

    Treadwright 265/75r16 wardens (BFG retread clone) on the way.
     
  13. Oct 31, 2013 at 6:51 PM
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    Need some front end weight man. What the coils are made for.
     
  14. Oct 31, 2013 at 6:52 PM
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    Is it a really bad vibe? I get one as well from 40-45 but it's very faint.
     
  15. Oct 31, 2013 at 8:42 PM
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    The plan is to add front weight, yes. May not be for some time but workin on it. Others ran this stock, and i took their recommendation( boxrocket comes to mind). Very happy with the ride quality.

    Ome kit from wheelers has the coils, all 4 corner shocks, Dakar springs, u bolts, exhaust extension, brake extension... You can see the full list on their site :)

    Vibes are bad enough that I really wanna fix it! I have a strategy on this, and mechanic is gonna weigh in his opinion too.
     
  16. Oct 31, 2013 at 9:16 PM
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    They may settle in after a couple days.

    As already mentioned, they were designed for an armored front end.

    If you are trying to get level, may want to look into the AAL for the Dakars (especially being loaded up with the camper shell.)
     
  17. Oct 31, 2013 at 10:08 PM
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    It is indeed is higher, no weight in the back other than shell, spare, and a box of water bottles. That she'll is pretty stinkin heavy. There is lean, no doubt, but the pic is really crappy and truck is on slant leaning toward the camera.

    When truck is back in my possession tomorrow or next week I will post pics. Honestly I cant imagine the rear leaf install can be f$@&ed up, as it only goes back together one way.

    Just got a msg from the mechanic that alignment came in within spec. Waiting to hear back if vibes are gone. Alignment was visibly bad before I brought it in.

    Edit: dakars are known for not handling weight as well, based on what I've read, and with the way their aal is marketed, it is recommended for trucks which carry 200 extra lbs regularly. I know that camper shell takes two grown ass men to move :)
     
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  18. Oct 31, 2013 at 10:13 PM
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    Dakars don't really offer a ton of lift by themselves. You'll need and AAL and/or shackles to really bring the rear back up.
     
  19. Oct 31, 2013 at 11:28 PM
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    Yeah you should see more in the back it seems.

    Here's 883s in the front before doing dakars.

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    And with the dakars and AAL. That's with no spare on yet right after I installed them. So it has settled and the rear is level/slightly lower than the front.

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  20. Nov 1, 2013 at 5:01 AM
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    Same basic shit everybody else had 5 years ago.
    I did essentially the same lift you did. I did 882's but do have an ARB on the front. That said I didn't go with the AAL from the start and even with the ARB the front was higher than the rear. I ended up taking my shell off until I put the AAL on it just so it didn't sag. Once I got the AAL I put the shell back on, the full CBI bumper and my heavy bed drawer system and it sits perfect for me.

    Good luck.

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