OME 887 with Bilstein 5100

damn.... winch and bumper at only 110lbs is pretty good. like previously stated you will prob get about 2.5" with the 887s

 

Steel Cable is probably another 20

 

Fuck then. Probably stock height.

 

I guess I need 886's... Time to sell the 887's with 1,000 miles on them

 

A higher spring rate coil requires more weight to compress. If two coils of the same length have different spring rates, the one with the higher rate will provide more lift. So yes, spring rate is a factor along with length when it comes to lift.

 

So a coil with the same spring rate as stock but that is longer will provide lift?

 

I believe I already covered that....
Longer length = more preload = more lift.

All I was trying to point out is that the spring rate is very much a factor as well.

 

Oh thanks....

 

A bit condescending aren't we

 

Who me?....

Oh excuse me... I believe you have corrected me a couple times before so im glad you are chiming in to keep me in line hahaha. What would i do without you?!?!?

 

I didn't realize using "NOPE" would cause you so much harm
I'll do my best not to correct you again

 

@Mr Salty How do the Bilstein 5100's have that adjustable little C-Ring holding up all that weight?
It just seems like have a toddler lift a car

Also if I but my 5100's at 0 will the 887 be compressed so much that It won't do its intended lift?

 

Just get the OME 90000 struts and be done with it, you'll like them.

 

Physics come to mind

Ring fitment within groove, ring overlap/seat depth, ring material, lower spring seat design..... this would require a lot of explanation, but each of these play a role in the amount of resistance that little clip can be exposed to. Lets just say I'm sure a massive company like Bilstein did their homework an ran plenty of "test to failure" studies.

When questioning spring rate and the clips ability to hold up to it (theres more to this as well which requires a lot of explaining), think about the other platforms these shocks are used for where the clip design is the same....what about the weight of that vehicle or the spring rate of those coils?

As for your other question, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The 887 coils are 5mm longer than the 885 coils. That 5mm increase in length translates to additional preload. The additional preload provides the additional lift, in this case the lift being approx 0.5" over the 885 coils which are said to provide 2.5" of lift.

 

Although some suspension components from different manufacturers can be combined successfully, I'd more so question using a part that was meant for a different vehicle entirely like the 887 coils, which were designed for the Land Cruiser Prado 150 Series with gas motor plus bumper & winch or diesel motor with bumper only, giving 2" of lift for the intended application.

The Bilstein height adjustable shocks were actually developed on my '05 Tacoma (shown on their flyer) and are designed for use with the stock coil springs. While we sell all these components and have had customers use them together in varying combinations, we typically recommend sticking with the manufacturer's intended use since there is a lot of R&D that goes into the development.

...just my 2 cents.

 

^ You do understand that the 887 coils are designed the exact same as the 885 coils, but only 5mm longer and that the 885 coils were designed for the Tacoma? You also understand that things like rubber bushings and even the amount of rotation on the top bolt can easily impact the amount of preload thus absorbing that little 5mm difference between the two therefore translating (dependent on assembly) to almost no difference.

As for the coil rate over stock, I realize some can get hung up on this, but to these people I ask do you have a clear understanding of what's truly going on with the coils and how spring rate might impact the exposed force at the seat on the 5100s. My background is engineering, actually product development engineering where I do a lot of testing and crunching of data (boring I know, and have done this for almost 20 years ). Having done lots of testing on coils of many designs and sizes, I'd like to think I have a pretty good understanding of them..... Yap yap yap, sorry not popping my collar nor mean to sound arrogant

Where I'm going with this is there's marketing of a product and there's the suitability of use of a product. In many cases the suitability of use can be quite expansive vs what marketing would lead you to believe. I think the knowledge of a product, testing and understanding that the product might serve many uses can be a beneficial venture to all.

That said without the knowledge or perhaps the ability test product, I can certainly understand why some people will only follow the advertised intended use as that's a safe approach. For those with the knowledge and ability to test and who can confidently gain a clear understanding of product and the interaction between other products, more power to them. Thus far the 887/5100 combo has been proven, for those who question this what evidence do you have to support your concern aside from just pointing out how the product is labeled.

 

They are still good. haven't ripped if that's what your asking.

 

887s/5100s on 0 setting camburg ball joint uppers with the wheelers 3 leafs aal. Rides very Well.