OME Coil lifts 886 vs 887 vs 888

So many different brands and ways you can go in the strut/spring game these days. Mine is mostly just a DD for me, totally stock and keep being torn between going OME or Eibach springs. Continually see OME feedback of sagging and firmness, whereas I see a lot of the opposite with Eibach spring feedback. Can never tell until you do it and see for yourself though. My "firm" could totally be different then everyone else LOL! Going 100k on mine with stock suspension. Not leaking but they're definitely needing replaced!

 

I read this exact same material last year but wanted only 1" of front lift. I had Bilstein 5100s (for 3rd gens) but wanted to keep them on low notches. I bought the Toytec 620# springs, 1.5" lift for 2G.

They gave about 1/2-3/4" lift to my 3rd gen, and then I raised up my Bilsteins one notch.

On a side note I am glad to reread in this thread the 700+# spring rate attributed to 3rd gen coils. 700 to 590 is a big difference. I think that 700+ and extra nose weight of 3rd gens gets lost at times discussing setups, feel, sag, sway, nose, etc.

 

Which oem coil is 700+?
3rd Gen comes with 3-4 front suspension coils based on the color codes.
I installed 885s in June 2020. They still sit at the same level.

 

I have read there are different color code coil springs spread between 2016-23 model years and trims, but at least one of them is over 700 lbs spring rate, I believe 712.
I have not found anything in over a year of looking for it, to contradict that.

 

7 years here trying to find a confirmation on that number

 

Are you saying that in 7 years, you haven't seen or read another manufacturer or retailer other than Toytec in late '15/early '16, publish their own test, or state their findings?

I hear that, I have not seen other than hearsay here.

 

I did read that. There is no "spec sheet" attached , just words..
So, which trim coil is 700?

 

I likewise didn't see a spec sheet with the Toytec article. I just took the body of the article as representative of their findings and opinions. However, there is also HS Offroad's lift guide which states it is based on customer feedback and product testing.

Going by Headstong's lift guide from 2017, revised in March 2018, which is the one in this thread, a stock 3rd Gen Tacoma will lift about one inch less than a comparable stock 2nd Gen Tacoma, on the same OME coil and the same OME Nitro or Bilstein 5100 #24-239370 installed.

This has to be due to additional weight bearing down on the 3rd Gen front as other factors are held constant.

Wikipedia states the 3rd Gen max curb weight is 260 lbs. heavier than the 2nd Gen max curb weight. Major generation changes included the 3rd Gen V6 models changing engines and transmissions, going to the 3.5L with 6-speed auto, from the 4.0L and 5 speed auto in 2nd Gens. Also, the overall length of 3rd Gen access and double cabs increased 4 inches over the same 2nd Gen models, while their wheelbases remained the same.

None of this goes to the exact spring rates of the different stock 3rd Gen coils, however it will take a higher spring rate coil of the same OME lengths, to lift a particular 3rd Gen model, the same amount as its comparable 2nd Gen model. Accordingly, I have no reason to not believe Toytec's findings until someone else brings some contrary finding forward.

 

I'm a proud collector of SR5 coils and I can tell you that they are no near 700, 710, 712 or whatever number is floating here.
TW has a lot of uncorroborate information.

Also, I'm not buying 3 gen weight vs 2nd Gen.
885 coils according to many sources is Gen2 with the lift 1.75.
After installation, I got 1.8" lift w/AAL
885s have not sagged for 4 years and holding at the same level

 

I have a DCLB with 5100s set to second circlip setting on ome 884's with an add a leaf in the rear. I believe I have about 1.25" lift currently.

I've recently picked up a Deaver stage 1 leaf pack which should give me approximately 2" lift as well as a winch Mount.

Since I'll be lifting the rear and adding about 150lbs to the front, what would be the ideal springs I should be getting to level the truck back out? I would prefer level ideally, however a slight rake is okay.

 

Probably 888 coils. 887 is for the stock weight.

 

Why didn't you keep the oem (stock) coils, as per Bilstein recommendation?

I realize this thread is old now, but just curious.

 

To get any lift with OEM springs you have to raise the circlip on the shocks which increases preload and sacrifices ride quality. Using OME springs allow you to achieve lift while keeping the clip on the bottom of the shock to preserve ride quality.

 

I went through this same OME spring debate prior to lifting my truck back in the Spring of 2020. Ultimately I decided to avoid the, “Will they or won’t they sag?” drama and went with the Eibach ProTruck coils and shocks on all 4 corners. It has been an awesome setup. With the research and development Eibach puts into their lifts, and their excellent warranty, it’s a lot of juice for the squeeze.

 

Yep, exactly why I went with Bilstein 5100 Lift. Didn't have to waste my $$$ on coils, and I've got great ride quality.
As long as you boys are happy with your ride, that's what matters