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OME lift vs Ultimate Lift

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Tio Pepe, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. Jul 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM
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    doesnt the toytech kit some with coilovers?, theres the $500 there.
     
  3. Jul 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM
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    They are BOTH technically coilovers....The coil goes over the spring...coilover.

    The Toytec kit is adjustable and the Ultimate kit comes with some extra hardware that is "required" (the sway bar relocates, diff drop, shims)
     
  4. Jul 15, 2009 at 1:48 PM
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    the ultimate lift kit comes with rear 5100s also
     
  5. Jul 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM
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    The OME shocks cost more than the 5100s and come with their kit.
     
  6. Jul 15, 2009 at 1:53 PM
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    well look at the 2 products, the quality of the ultimate is much greater than that of the ome
     
  7. Jul 15, 2009 at 1:56 PM
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    Ummmm....I'd LOVE to hear you justify that statement fully.

    I've got a FULL OME suspension (except rear springs) because the oil loading, shock pressure, and spring rates worked for my type of driving/wheeling better than the 5100s.

    The adjustability of the Toytec might be nice- but I don't have any concerns about major sagging because of the spring design from OME (not OEM).

    So again...What makes the Toytec so much "greater"??
     
  8. Jul 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM
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    OME-TAK
    Complete OME suspension
    Includes:
    Front OME N140S shocks
    Front coils: Choose from options 884 coils for std and x cab models, 885 coils for D cab and additional weight, 886 coils for 200+ front weight from aftermarket bumper or winch
    Add top plate spacers for a full 3" front lift with 884 and 885 coils
    Rear: Choose from ToyTec add-a-leafs, 1 1/2" blocks, or complete OME springs with bushings
    NOTE:Complete OME springs include bushings and U bolts and are priced with spring shipping included
    Rear N182 shocks
    Front diff drop kit for 4x4 models
    OME trim spacer for a level front.
     
  9. Jul 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM
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    Yeah but the Coils for the Shocks ARE included, just not an extra spacer that would push it up to an even 3" and cost like $140. The only difference I can find in the two specs is sway bar relocates on the ultimate kit. Which is hardly worth the $426 dollars difference. I know everybody likes the Bilsteins, but given that the OME shocks are more expensive sold seperately I just thought it was real weird that these packaged kits at Toytec have such a huge price gap.



    Ulimate Kit specs:
    http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.ph...ategory_id=64&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72


    OME Kit Specs:
    http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.ph...ategory_id=64&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72
     
  10. Jul 15, 2009 at 2:04 PM
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    Okay?? So you'd rather preload your springs more to get three inches of lift...I'd rather use a small (like 1/4 to 1/2 inch) top plate spacer to get there.

    You still haven't proven the overwhelmingly amazing quality that makes it so much better...You pointed out a preference. (which was were I was going this whole time)...You might like it better...but that doesn't make it amazingly better.

    I'd be hard pressed to believe OME would be in business with the prices they charge if Bilstien was so much better AND less expensive.

    PS- My deal is that I hate un-qualified brand loyalty/non-fact based statements that are made as un-equivocally . Have you ever ridden in/used OME products?? Then what are you comparing based on??
     
  11. Jul 15, 2009 at 2:06 PM
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    The 5100s are a higher pressure, lower oil content shock- Leading to faster heat up and potential for fading under fast motion/rebounds. The OME are lower pressure with more oil, generally leading better heat movement and less fading. I'm not sure what the down fall of them are...but I'm sure there is something....
     
  12. Jul 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM
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    if thats the case then why are the OME shocks and coilovers more than the Bilsteins sold seperately?
     
  13. Jul 15, 2009 at 2:13 PM
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    I am not trying to start a fight between OME and Bilstein, I just dont understand if Toytec is packaging kits, why does the price of the OME come in so much cheaper than the kit with Bilsteins when the opposite is true when sold seperately? :confused:
     
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    how do u figure. 458 for the ome to 799 for the toytec
     
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    beats me.... people buy it and they can sell it at that price so y not i guess lol
     
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    ok i see know that the actual coilover itself makes up some difference, but not all. Both kits include coilovers for the shocks, and while the OME shock is more than the Bilstein shock, the actual coil that Toytec makes for the Bilstein costs more than the OME coil. Still they Toytec coil is $260 more than the OME coil, but the OME shock is $90 more than the 5100. Thats a net difference of $170. But the Kits with everything have a net difference of $426. So now I just cant find $256 dollars worth of difference instead of $426 in the two kits.

    Edit: $226 difference because the Bilstein REARs are $30 more than the OME Rears
     
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    Yes.. I'll be anxiously awaiting a detailed explanation to this problem from someone much wiser than me as I have not completely made up my mind on a lift just yet. Good info so far. :D
     
  18. Jul 15, 2009 at 4:30 PM
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    the one thing i guess I'm missing to be fair in the explaination- What is the benefit of the oil/pressure in the Bilstien shocks?? More responsive?? Cheaper to build??

    Cause obviously if the OME set up was cold better-then everyone would do it that way now??
     
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    the ultimate lift kit is also pre-assembled which means you dont have to have the springs compressed and it comes with a new top plate...i guess that could cover some of the price difference but im not sure how much. either way im ordering the OME kit soon. ftw!
     
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