Ontario BS Thread

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Look into 2/0 Aluminum just make sure you solder your lugs and not just crimp them. (or al least use Noalox before you crimp).
And shrinktube the ends to seal them.
Use 90 deg heat or higher insulation rated wire/cable.
Support it well so it won't rub/chafe the insulation....


The huge cost difference will outweigh the tiny bit of extra resistance vs the same size copper.
Your winch won't be 100% duty cycle anyways.

If you use #2 that length you will be limiting your pulls to something like 5 mins max pull with 10 mins+ cool down.
Then when the insulation degrades from heating....
You better have a fuse or breaker installed, or very good insurance.
If you plan on pulling Austin Mini's out of flowerbeds, #2 would be fine.

Joe is right in that these are series wound DC motors.

Series wound motors have no speed regulation (but very high torque as soon as they start) ,
so as you apply load it will slow down and draw way more current.

Smaller diameter wire has a lot more resistance when the current goes up, (#2 has roughly twice the resistance of 2/0)
higher resistance creates more heat and lowers the voltage to the series motor ,
Lower voltage slows down the motor, and then it draws more amperage.
More amperage=more heat=more resistance.....
Heats up the winch motor faster....

 

2/0 aluminum might be a bit of a bitch for routing etc.
Never seen flexible aluminum cable like sow etc

 

My hypothesis, all about making the best price for the consumer. If one must have a winch to complete “The Look” (not us CUNTS), then it doesn’t matter if the wires are shitty, cause it’ll never get used. So, poser will buy cheaper kit A, save $200 on wire, and buy another dozen Metal Mulisha decals, or non-fat-mocha-frappe-douche-brews. I blame the Amazon buy it now deals for the shitty wires, and telling ppl “Yup, it’ll work”. Technically it’ll work, but I’ll listen to the CUNTS when they tell me no bueno.

I will stand by my previous opinion, electricity is scary.

Thanks @Joe23 for dumbing it down (sorta, still feelin’ kinda dumb), thanks @pete37 for pricing.
Sorry cunts if I forgot you

 

If it's in the front 1/0 is fine.

But yes pretty much. I've order a few things off Amazon just to try and then get it and it's garbage.

I saw one of this Prime deals on pot lights. $120 for 16 lights. Looked like the same ones I get from the supplier by the brand liteline.

Got them next day delivery. 3 didn't even work 5 barely dimmed lower than 80% and all of which ran hot to the touch. And these were supposed to be insulation contact rated.

Returned them after my tests. The running hot was no bueno to me and the lack of dimming.

Considering my supplier is only $14 a light not much more to have a good product. Not to mention I built the owners cottage so I know he tests his shit good and stands behind the product with lifetime led warranty.


But ya point is Amazon deals sometimes aren't worth the savings as it's shit quality.

 

Good point,
I should have mentioned CCA Power Cable (Copper Clad Aluminum), would be easier for routing.

 

Might be cheaper just to have a deep cycle battery in the bed

 

But you'll still run the issue of routing cables all the way back there for charging which will still need a 1/0 to handle the charging cycle.

Eugene wanted to do similar with bed mounted battery but length of wire would be too much.

 

Honestly easier to just have front winch. How often do you pull yourself backwards. All the guys the wheel hard constantly rarely have rear winch

 

No i meant just keep it back there specifically for rear winch use. Not like a dual battery setup. Then just keep it charged when not wheeling

 

Two years later, the CostCo at Yorkdale has them now. Picked up a two-pack on my mall-crawling trip today.

 

My entire nonsensical plan has changed....

by by winch in cradle idea.

Winch in ARB bumper it is.


Not what I wanted, but I cant seem to do what I wanted cuz im derp.

 

Could work but winch would kill that battery pretty quick lol.
Having the alternator feed into that winch helps a lot.

And the cost of that second battery would be close to cost of the cable to just wire it right off the front battery.

None of which saves the $100 that going the cheapo 2awg way does lol

 

Rotopax?

 

No, 2 20 litre gas cans for around $22. I picked some up last week.

 

@tgelata @Joe23 @tacoma16

Sorry I was so stubborn with my idea that I could just not let go of my winch in a cradle.

Thanks for bashing me in the head hard enough that I listened.

I really appreciate it, it is a much better idea to just put it in the bumper that I have which is designed for it.

Took me long enough to come to this realization.

 

on another note, changed all my U joints, centre carrier bearing and front axle seal. Did the diff fluid and oil change while I was at it.

Got the axle seal changed today, after f**king up the first one and having to buy another… I picked up a PVC coupling and cap sized to match the seal, so I could tap it in evenly. It’s amazing how easy the job is when you have the proper SST to do the job ($4.75 at Home Hardware).

Took her for a test drive and smooth as silk! No vibrations what-so-ever.

On the drive home, I was treated to a guy railing his woman doggy style in an upstairs window with all the lights on and no curtains or blinds… lol. Couldn’t really see anything, but I knew what they were doing. It was good for a chuckle on the drive home.

 

:cough: I believe I was involved in calling you a fire hazard also..... I feel so left out.... :sniff:

AND I disagree with your above statement!

You're not stubborn!

You're just a cheapskate... Errr... A cost effective person. Yeah that's it.

See I just stood up for you! You can thank me for that also...

You're welcome.

Lol

I thought about putting a rear winch cradle in for the idea of it being better in the back to get out of a situation if I was by myself,
but also so I could easily remove the winch if I was not going to use it.
But all the good points become bad points i.e
being out the back in a cradle, is goingto really drag when going offroad,
when you in a position to need the winch, there is a good chance you didn't install it yet (see above)
and it will probably really suck to get it into the receiver when you are stuck.
Proper wire and quick disconnects are going to be real expensive or a fire hazard for the properly rated winch.
And running the wire to the front neatly and safely is going to be a pain in the ass.

Then after all that work and $$ it looks like you "took the cheap and quick way" .

 

Not even against a rear winch, although I feel it's not necessary if you want it thats fine. Just don't cheap out on wiring and create a fire hazard


If you lived closer I'd help wire it etc but you're far bruhhh

 

20l gas can 19.06 here