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Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by JasonJump, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. Apr 17, 2010 at 4:00 PM
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    JasonJump

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    I have lifted the front 2" and want to raise the back 1-2"..... is it better to go with a block, or add a leaf? What is a smoother ride? And I have heard that the blocks wear your leafs out.... input?
     
  2. Apr 17, 2010 at 4:05 PM
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    check out the build thread
    Get a 1.5in AAL
     
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    blocks are for bro's
     
  4. Apr 17, 2010 at 4:06 PM
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    1" block. 2" AAL
     
  5. Apr 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM
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    ..... is one more of a smooth ride than another.....
     
  6. Apr 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM
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    In the past I've always done AALs for lift, they will make the ride a bit more ridgid, some brands more than others; they absolutely won't make it softer. They will increase your load capicity if that is a concern.

    On my Taco is the first block I've used (1") and there is zero change in the ride quality from it. As far as "wearing out springs" that's just not a concern with a 2" block or less. You'll see some of those full sized trucks with 4" - 6"+ blocks, those do wear springs because the added increase in leverage from the axle to the springs. With the smaller blocks this 'added leverage' is insignificant.

    Whether you go AAL or block put in a 3* shim while you're in there.
     
  7. Apr 17, 2010 at 5:24 PM
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    ya absolutely nothing wrong with a 2'' block or less. especially if you get one tapered for a better DS angle
     
  8. Apr 17, 2010 at 6:25 PM
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    Sweet! Thats what I was wondering guys, thanks a lot I think I am going to just add a 1.5" to the back, just want it to be level. Thanks a again!
     
  9. Apr 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM
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    Sorry, noob here.........

    Tapered for a betterr DS angle? Can u briefly elaborate? I have the TSB in the rear with 2.5 spacers in the front (till I can get the Billies). I would like to have a bit of a rake back, do you thin 2" spacer would be ok?

    I hope I let this thread dye down before I crapped all over it...

    Thanks
     
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    What he means is that the block has the corrected angle already designed into the shape of the block (the bottom side of the block is not straight flat). Any time you do a supension lift or drop for that matter, you ruin the angle of the drive shaft in relation to the differentional. This causes a bad vibration while driving and puts a strain on your universal joints. If the block is not designed with the correct angle, you will have to put a shim (a little aluminum wedge) between the axle and block to correct the angel and eliminate vibration, also known as driveline vibration. I know ReadyLift's lift blocks already have the correct angle designed into their lift blocks. Even if you don't have the correct angle already built into the lift block , the shims used to correct the angel are cheap. Just make sure to ask or research your lift kit manufactuer to see if you need the shims or not. The manufacturer should be able to tell you how many degrees the shim should be. In this case a previous post mentioned using a 3 degree shim. Even though you may buy the lift as part of a kit, they sometimes don't included the shims if needed. I learned all this info the hard way when I put in a drop kit on a past truck.
     
  11. Apr 28, 2010 at 7:08 AM
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    Thanks majic... Does this hold true for any size lift? Lets say TSB plus a 1" AAL....?
     
  12. Apr 28, 2010 at 7:35 AM
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    yes this is true for anything different than stock. Just remember the higher you go, the more work you have to do to compensate for all the new geometry.
     
  13. Apr 28, 2010 at 8:20 AM
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    How would I compensate for the TSB AAL + a 1" AAL?
     
  14. Apr 28, 2010 at 9:07 AM
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    ^^If you have the tsb springs then you might want to get a 1" block. Adding an aal to that is gonna make it stiffer than it already is.
     
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    Hey guys

    I have a 2010 so the tsb was done at the factory correct? So if this correct then if I put in blocks the ride should stay the same?
     
  16. Apr 28, 2010 at 10:27 AM
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    Good point, thanks. I dint want to put any stress on anything thus the reason I was going with AAL. 1" may not be enought to worry about.
     
  17. Apr 28, 2010 at 1:13 PM
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    Just get the total lift in inches, contact a company that sells the shims and let them know what your lift is (in inches) and what you used for the lift (ie blocks, leaf springs, etc..). They should be able to get you the right shims. Try this company http://www.airbagit.com/Lifted-Truck-Suspension-s/1687.htm This is where i ordered my lowered suspension when I had my first truck. Yet they didn't include the shims. I was mad, but they sent me the shims when I called to complain about vibration. They also manufacture lifts. Now I've used their parts before with no problem. When my first truck was wrecked (totaled) I was able to salvage the lowering control arms and use them on my new truck. If you can't find the shims anywhere try that link above, I suggest you call them also. It may be that the shims are not listed..Hope this helps.
     
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