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Optima battery worth it?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Fisherman983, Mar 29, 2019.

  1. Mar 29, 2019 at 4:57 PM
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    Fisherman983

    Fisherman983 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I remember 20 years ago working at les schwabs they were what rich daddy's kids bought to be cool... but are they really worth it now? Or is a standard Schwab battery gonna be just fine?
    Plan on adding a 30" light bar and ditch lights.. already have BD pros for fog lights.
     
  2. Mar 29, 2019 at 5:03 PM
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    Jeffch

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    I had a yellow top.
    Pos didn’t last and crapvance wouldn’t cover it.
    Sol I got their advance agm and took my yellow top and tail home. Pretty happy with the auto craft it’s been good.
     
  3. Mar 29, 2019 at 5:11 PM
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    maxtherat

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    The old ones- yes but newer ones - no. I have a pair in my dodge date coded 4/06 and still going strong.
     
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    I went with XS Power a couple of months after I bough my truck and still going strong - 4 years.
     
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  5. Mar 29, 2019 at 5:16 PM
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    3JOH22A

    3JOH22A トヨタ純正男娼

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    I use a Red Top because it allowed me to downsize to a 20-lb lighter battery and still maintain the same starting CCA rating. I have no major electrical accessories. For your needs, the money is better spent on a larger AGM battery with higher reserve capacity.
     
  6. Mar 29, 2019 at 5:20 PM
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    RecklessTLS

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    My yellow top has been rocking for 5 years. Its been in my duramax and my last 3 toyotas. Cant say how good the new ones are.
     
  7. Mar 29, 2019 at 5:23 PM
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    crashnburn80

    crashnburn80 Vehicle Design Engineer

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    This is a repost of mine:

    Optima was made in the USA. In the early 2000s Optima was purchased and the new parent company cut cost and moved production to Mexico. There was some overlap in the mid/late 2000s where both the US factory and the Mexican one were producing batteries. In 2008 I think the parent company closed USA production and shifted all production to Mexico. The Mexican made batteries that are said to be of poor quality and not at all what the Optima brand used to be. While the USA plant closed in 2008, there was still stock of the USA made batteries that likely lingered around for a little while before eventually all being sold and replaced with Mexican ones.

    I had a yellow top that I purchased in 2005 for winching on my Wrangler Rubicon. That battery was a trooper and did great on long hard winch pulls in well below freezing temperatures. I kept it for 8 years across several vehicles before eventually selling it with a vehicle. I would no longer buy an Optima and instead run a USA made NorthStar AGM. They are ultra high performance mix deep/starting cycle that are quiet a bit better than Optima.

    Compare 27F batteries specs:

    Optima yellow top
    15x more vibration resistant
    CA: 1025A
    CCA: 830A
    RC: 140 min
    Charge/Discharge cycles: 300
    Warranty: 3yrs
    Made in Mexico
    Price: Approx $300

    NorthStar
    28x more vibration resistant
    CA: 1750
    CCA: 930A
    RC: 195 min
    Charge/Discharge cycles: 900
    Warranty: 5yrs
    Made in the USA
    Price: Approx $350 (before available coupons of 10-20% off)

    The better battery seems pretty clear.
     
  8. Mar 29, 2019 at 6:20 PM
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    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

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    Thanks for chiming in @crashnburn80

    I always like to see your input on these boards, very helpful and always with some evidence/testing/experience to back it up

    :hattip:
     
  9. Mar 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
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    what @crashnburn80 said. Batteries + carries X2 power which is a rebranded NorthStar. I use them in my tacoma, highlander, and boat.
     
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  10. Mar 29, 2019 at 7:06 PM
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    crashnburn80

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    I should have mentioned that, yes that is where I got mine. You can buy online and pickup in store and use the website coupon code often listed on the home page for 10-20% off. X2 Power says it is a NorthStar right on the side of the battery.
     
  11. Mar 29, 2019 at 7:29 PM
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    My 1st Yellow Top from '04 lasted til about 2013, when I retired it from my old truck to a demo derby car, and it got stolen. It was still going when I took it out, I just figured I was on borrowed time.

    The only other one I bought was a 51R in '09. It was still going, but cranked kinda slow, when I totalled the car it was in 2 years later. The fact that it seemed to be dying already, and reading others complaining about the quality, kept me from buying another.
     
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  12. Mar 29, 2019 at 7:41 PM
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    jboudreaux1965

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    You have a TRD Sport, it should have a 135A alternator. The current draw from the lights shouldn't be enough to justify buying a new battery unless you already have issues in my opinion.
     
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    CorrosiveTendency

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    As much as many of us dislike walmart, they have a decent warranty and the batteries are made in Pa., as well as all Napa and O'Reilly
     
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    Just read the reviews, the past couple years Optima have really shit the bed

     
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    pinktaco808

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    New ones suck ass
     
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    Optima batteries have been poor quality ever since the production shifted to Mexico a little over a decade ago. Most don't even last two or three years. I've seen some failures after only a few months. I have a Optima red top from early 2001 when they were only made in Colorado and it's still going strong. It just won't die.
     
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  17. Mar 30, 2019 at 12:47 AM
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    Bluegrass Taco

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    Waste of money.

    I've had several Optima's on farm tractors, bigger trucks, etc. I also use Auto Zone Duralast Gold conventional. The duralast OUT last the Optima's, cost about 1/3rdas much, and they have a pretty damn strong warranty.
     
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  18. Mar 30, 2019 at 1:09 AM
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    Thanks for that information. What brand(s) are made in PA? I'd like to know when the time comes to replace my original battery.
     
  19. Mar 30, 2019 at 5:55 AM
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    Deka/East Penn. They make batteries for a lot of other labels.
     
  20. Mar 30, 2019 at 9:01 AM
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    bluezzy

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    I've had a yellow top in my taco for two years now and is what I like most about it is in sub freezing temps the starter cranks over every bit as fast as it does in the summer time.
     

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