Orange County CAF's: up to no good

It's actually quite... Full throttle and not going any faster than 60mph

 

I truly AM impressed then if that is the case!!! In the riders head he is thinking that he's all "yoked out", LMFAO!!! All this, while listening to "death metal" on his mp3 player while riding!!!

LMFAO!!! Ahhh nuhhhhhhhhh ther "OJ" chase of the year 2000's!!!

 

This is what I was talking about on page 1079 post# 21580

This header for $399.95 (LC Engineering 2.7L header)



or this header for $413.00 (Doug Thorley 2.7L header)



or this header for $313.95 (Rock Ripper 2.7L header)


THEN, a "catback" to match!!! LOL!!! Damn, I haven't even gotten to the "front end" of the engine yet, LOL!!! Mo money mo money mo money!!! LMFAO!!!

 

I wouldn't get a header for increased power. The motor is gonna put out what it puts out maybe you'll shape it a bit? @WileECoyote what exactly are you trying to resolve with the header?

 

Yeah, still doing my "research" on that one!!!

Just that (i.e. HP). BUT, just a slight gain between 5-10HP with a catback as well to "match" piping and back pressure... well, as much as possible!!!

EVENTUAAAAAAALY, a supercharger. I like the low boost 2.7L SC from LCE!!! It will also make it Kali legal. Anyways, right around 40-50HP I would be good with. NOT looking to street race anyone. Plus, I'm thinking power/weight ratio. I have a reg cab taco, so NOT all that heavy. Maybe throw out the bench seat (i.e. put a bucket seat in), AC unit, radios, carpeting/headliner, passenger (LMAO), etc etc etc, I will truly lighten the rig for sure!!! Just like what @MadTaco461 Mike is doing... LMAO!!!

Seriously though, NOT really looking for any real crazy a$$ HP, just like I said above, 40-50HP increase from stock I would be pretty content with!!!

For now though, thinking about a header to start with, but still doing my research!!!

 

I wouldn't do headers unless your boost or decide not to run catalytic converter. @WileECoyote

 

Go with the top one, difference with three, is where each tubing merge.

 

Well, I do know this, as a "rule of thumb" what you do to the front end you SHOULD do to the back end of the engine system... again, as a rule of thumb. Headers are cheaper to start. UNLESS, of course, save all my lifes savings, LMAO, FIRST, then throw it all in!!!

Of course though, this is until AFTER-the-fact of getting a job first!!! I have two jobs lined-up now, but these are just temporary until I get into a job of what I really want to do. Good God, I must have been a serial killer in my past life and now I'm paying for it in this life???!!! FU**, I'm just glad I didn't come back as a F'N dung beatle at this stage, LOL!!!

 

Headers and exhaust do affect horsepower a pretty good amount. A half inch difference can cause the loss or gain of 25+ hp. Personally I only want headers to fix my hg issue but that's because I don't care about power lol

 

Because of the longer tubing, correct??? Didn't notice that until you mentioned it???!!! I know it also depends on the output diameter end as well though.

 

Lol you'd be lucky to get 50+ hp from a super. I don't think you should do any of it. Reading your questions tells me that you would not be happy with the improvements of a header and I speak as someone with the LCE header on my rig. I'm okay with the $400 that I spent to get a better low end and do slightly better on hills and bogged down, but it's a lot of money. Side note: I believe the LCE header is only 48 state legal, not CARB compliant. Only the Doug Thorley is CARB compliant.

If you really care about the numbers, there's a guy on here with a 2.7L named Tooter that has done all the dyno tests on every conceivable header and intake manifold. IIRC, the LCE header was the best improvement. It bumped the low end considerably, 650rpm peak torque drop and +20-something hp and around +20 torque.

I'm also not sure that LCE offers their 1st gen header anymore, as it doesn't seem to be listed on their website.

 

G, here is the link.

http://www.lceperformance.com/LCE-Street-Header-Kit-3RZ-1995-99-50-State-Legal-p/1041054.htm

I will look the other information up as well.

Regarding the 50+ HP from the SC, that was also including possible HP gains from the "header system" as well. I know that I would gain right around, approx, 35HP from the SC alone. But yes, I do agree that that is quite a bit of cash as well.

Man, even a gain of 10-15, somehow, I would be pretty content with spending a couple of Franklins for just that alone!!!

Also, the "low end" you speak of, that is also my desired range of HP area!!! I do know that the SC wouldn't kick in until higher rpms and please correct me if I am wrong?

 

Oh btw it's a lady lol

 

Exactly!

 

URD SC I believe is thousands of dollars.... that is a whole lot of Franklins

 

See guys, I's been reed'n, yessum I's have!!! LOL!!! I's can reed yo, I's can reed!!! Mo money mo money mo money!!! The life of a tacomer, LOL!!!

AND 4runners, I don't wanna leave you guys out, for sure!!! One of these days, I MIGHT have to depend on your a$$es to get me out of a situation... sooooo... don't wanna be talk'n trash about you guys, LMAO!!!

BTW, thanks to everyone so far for responding. ALL is being taken in and "computed", LOL!!!

 

Oh you have the 95-99 I didn't realize that. Do you have dual cats? (90% sure you're going to say yes.) Because if you do, you'll have to lose the first cat, meaning the second cat won't line up, meaning full exhaust replacement or adding a mini pipe to fill the gap. Either of those options should work, but remember that your rear 02 sensor will have the wrong voltage readings, meaning at least 2 CEL codes... meaning that you can't pass SMOG So go FUCK YOURSELF! Lol Cali livin..

If you want 50+ hp overall that makes a lot more sense. Well, so long as you aren't picturing 50 HP over stock. You'd need about 80+ HP to be 50 over stock at this point lol. Between the LCE header gains and the SC gains you'd probably hit that, but I'd look into using the 2 in combination first as I don't know how compatible long tube headers and the SC are. Would you be using the Alpine SC?

Low end is where you want to be in your truck. We have steel frame trucks with small, low-revving engines in them. Low end torque is what breaks you free from a stop, pushes you up the hill, and pulls you through turns. Have you noticed that if you run the needle up to 5000 revs and 60mph and then let your foot off the gas your revs immediately plummet to 2000 and you're going all of 30mph? Yeah, our high end isn't doing a whole hell of a lot for us. What you said earlier about doing the same to the front and the back is very true. No point in buying a header if you plan to throw in an oil filter or CAI... you'd be better off putting masking tape over a third of the stock paper filter. Then you'd be forcing the engine to generate torque in low revs as it'd be starved for air.

Yeah, on an SC it doesn't make sense to boost until you're at or over 4. I don't really see the point of a super on a 2.7 or even a 3.4 really... not unless they were able to hit 7.5 or 8k full boost. Makes more sense to turbo our engines, problem is the gains just aren't worth the expense. I looked into it a while back and found endless cheaper combinations for turbo fun, like dropping a grand on an old subaru legacy with a turbo, or one without and dropping a turbo in, or buy an STI engine/intercooler/turbo with blown head and rebuild the top. All of those are cheaper than buying the turbo kit for a Taco, and I'd rather be in a rally car for that money than a slow bouncy pickup!

 

Here is LCE's SC for a "few bucks", LOL!!! LMAO!!!



http://www.lceperformance.com/3RZ-2-7L-Low-Boost-Supercharger-Kit-Smog-Legal-199-p/7015195.htm

SIGGGHHHHHHH!!! LOL!!!

 

Yeah I agree here, no point in doing it to cut it off later for a higher flowing header anyway. Just hang on until you boost,.

 

It is a high flow header. AFAIK, the only thing you'd cut it off for would be to run a turbo header.