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Overland set-up total vehicle weight...

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by r_ben65, Aug 8, 2023.

  1. Aug 8, 2023 at 1:17 PM
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    Junkhead

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    Good.

    IMHO all this SM stuff just makes most people even more disconnected from each other. I noticed most folks my age 30-40 can’t even keep a conversation.
     
  2. Aug 8, 2023 at 1:19 PM
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    There are a couple of good threads on payload here on TW. What I did was fill my tank and go to a place with a scale. With myself and some basic stuff in the truck it came in at 4,720 lbs. So GVWR of 5,600 lbs minus the 4720 lbs I'm looking at just 880 lbs left for gear and passengers. Not great, but honestly never had an issue either (I leave a lot of the unnecessary crap at home and don't wheel it too hard anyways).

    Toyota seems pretty conservative on their payload figure and with the thousands of people bolting loads of lbs to their Taco's and driving all over you'd think there'd be failures upon failures showing up in headlines. Over-payloading by a few hundred lbs is probably a slow killer on your drivetrain/suspension but I wouldn't stress it and would just drive a bit slower and brake sooner.
     
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  3. Aug 8, 2023 at 1:23 PM
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    Man, ever since I added 33s and some weight, I drive like a grandpa for the most part. It truly was a blessing in disguise for me.

    I hang out in the slowest lane 95% of the time and watch others do dumb things to get somewhere 3 mins earlier.
     
  4. Aug 8, 2023 at 1:28 PM
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    Thanks for the replies. My goal is that when I retire, I'm going to do a lot of overlanding/traveling. I want to drive to Prudhoe Bay AK, MOAB, all that good stuff. Want to see the country, not interested in the cities. Do I really need those high clearance bumpers, probably not but then I might not be able to go on some of the trails I want to see. I intend to get the vehicle dirty but also don't want to hit something in the middle of nowhere and be stranded.
    So basically, the trucks with all that stuff are overloaded.

    No problem driving slower... I'll not really have a reason to get anywhere fast.
     
  5. Aug 8, 2023 at 1:33 PM
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    My favorite is when someone has the flashing halos on during the bright sunny day when tip toeing thru the wash at 2mph in their YouTube videos.
     
  6. Aug 8, 2023 at 1:36 PM
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    I really think aluminum is a great way to go, unless you are planning to do extreme rock crawling.

    I banged up my front aluminum stump bumper few times now and it held up just fine.
     
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    As mentioned earlier. Are you doing it to look cool, or do you really believe in the need for some items. It doesn't take too many trips to realize what are the priority items are to bring. The rest is just luxury and "fluff". Start out with having your truck setup....then use the remaining weight factor for your trip needs. It's nice having "goodies & trinkets", but it's so much nicer to NOT have to unpack & pack all the BS you brought. I laugh when I watch others unloading their "moving van" at the camp site. Going with just the essentials is so much easier...and it's easier on your truck as well.
     
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    Well, the skid plates and rock sliders are a done deal. Already bought. Not going to second guess that other than maybe that I should have gotten alum skids. Either way, its a moot point. The steel is already on.

    I do like the Smartcap and that's going on either way. There is stuff I want to be able to lock up even when I'm in town. Plus it stops people from going "Hey, you got a pick-up. Want to help me move?"
    The iKamper is something I can take off when not needed. All that said, once I get the RTT, I'll be heading out and using what I have. I guess I can decide whether it's "needed" or "wanted" from there. I'm just worried that I might smack into something that will make me say "Damn Rob, you f'ed up. Should have gotten ...."

    I am still curious about the weight of other people's setups.
     
  9. Aug 8, 2023 at 2:23 PM
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    Normally when one wants to save weight you look to save a little on a lot of things. But lets just evaluate the IKamper. You stated 125lbs and at least $3700-$4000 maybe more. The money may not be an issue for you but 4k and 125lbs will go a long way on other items. Going without the IKamper you could cover a quality ground tent, bags, pads, all your clothes, cooking supplies, and misc. items and still have money left over for gas.
     
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    Looks like you're missing a pack of hot dogs or similar if you want to stay out for a while.

    If you want to save weight: with the right amount of Coors, you can leave the tent at home.
     
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    Head over to Expedition Portal for information of this sort. It isn't as busy as TW, but it has a different vibe/mentality when it comes to this topic (and many others), i.e. it isn't as vilified over there and people are more likely to discuss actual numbers.
     
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    you could always sell the steel skids and get aluminum. just gonna take some time.

    the rsi is really cool, but you can get an alucab or gfc topper that weighs 100 lbs less. lead times on rsi is probably shorter than the other two right now though.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2023 at 3:19 PM
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    6 pack of beer weighs approx 4.5 lbs. 1/5 of scotch is approx 1.6 lbs. Scotch is a better weight saver than beer...more hotdogs.
     
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    Leave it stock, then as you adventure add the little bits you need. Saves weight and money. A heavy truck runs hotter and with worse mileage.
     
  15. Aug 8, 2023 at 3:51 PM
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    I have a 21 DCSB I run:

    Rsi Smartcap EVO - 220lbs with cargo bars
    CVT Mt Washington RTT - 210lbs
    270 Batwing Awning - 80lbs with mounts

    610lbs of gear FT (including fridge slide)

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    Fridge slide - 100lbs
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    Your Armour will be a bit heavy… whatever. You live once.

    I would agree with others though… get as minimal as you are comfortable going,
    Less money up front; far less to unload and pack.

    Especially if you are “overlanding”. The RTT was designed to be opened, slept in and the moved. We use ours for multi day static trips cuz of little kids.

    I would think a tent, fridge and battery pack,
    Some lights and a Mesh Tent, bathroom setup, fire extinguisher and the typical camp gear (stove etc, would do you well).

    enjoy your truck! That’s really the most important part.

    As my picture implies… I’m not even afraid of hitting a busy campground.
     
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    The sticker on your driver's door jamb will give you you're specific payload and I can almost guarantee yours doesn't say 1155lbs. If It's a SB Off-Road, it's probably 1000lbs minus the little yellow sticker subtractions.
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    The slide for your fridge really weighs 100lbs.?
     
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    Honestly sounds like we have similar goals. My advice if you want it, leave it stock. Get decent tires & a topper. Put some basic recovery gear in it and adventure all you want. As you go, add the things you need. I bought a trd or with the intent of making big mods, bumpers, lifts etc - and have yet to do more than a topper and an awning.
     
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    Yeah. My baseline was the plates, sliders, top and tent. Might have been overkill with the steel skid plates instead of aluminum but I'll survive. The other stuff I can take time getting if I decide I need it. I know I had a picture in my head of what I wanted but if it's not feasible, it can change.

    That one of the reasons for my initial post. If the weight of everything I was looking at isn't manageable, I figure someone here would know.
     
  20. Aug 8, 2023 at 5:36 PM
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    No 2 trucks are the same. The GVWR is the same. They actually weigh the trucks as they roll off the assembly line and subtract actual weight from GVWR to determine payload. It depends on the options on your truck. The heavier the truck, the less payload you have. My 2007 DC 4X4 TRD has a little over 1200.

    There has never been a truck made that someone didn't overload. I'm OK with that if kept close, driven carefully and for shorter distances. As long as everything goes as planned being a little overweight is usually not a big deal. But sooner or later something unplanned comes up and you have one of those "oh shit" moments. When that happens, you will wish you had a bigger truck, or a smaller load. Remember people are part of that payload. A skinny driver and one skinny passenger will be 300 lbs. If you have 4 grown men in the truck that could easily be 800-1000 lbs.

    Think like a backpacker when selecting gear. Keep everything light and put a lot of thought into those modifications. I see people spend $5000 modifying their trucks and still never go anyplace a stock truck can't go. If I'm going anyplace tougher than my stock truck will go I'll pull a $5000 ATV on a trailer instead of spending $5000 modding my truck.
     
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