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overshot my front lift

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by pokeng, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. Apr 23, 2010 at 7:19 AM
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    pokeng

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    Well, thought I'd try to be smart and try something different. Had the TSB done a few months back and wanted to put a small lift on the front. I looked at 5100's, but read great things about the EMU ride quality. I went with the 884's without the spacers for my DC because I only wanted about 2" of front lift. 2" should have left me a small rake. I installed it myself a couple weeks ago and got 2 1/4" and 2 1/2", surprisingly. I thought it would settle in back to 2" to get rid of the nose high look. It has somewhat, but not enough for my liking. I really like the ride quality of the EMU now that I've put on a few thousand miles with it (much better than stock), so I will stick with it. Are there any options to raise the back end 1/2"-1"??? I know Toytec has the TSB AAL, but it seems like it would raise it too much. Like I said, I only want a slight rake or level look when finished. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Apr 23, 2010 at 7:28 AM
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    I think there are some "Add a Leaf" options that would raise your back about that much. Those are a pretty to pop in.

    Or instead, maybe think about putting an aftermarket front bumper, or even a bull bar up front.. should about line up if you did that.

    EDIT: URL for an add-a-leaf at Wheeler's Offroad for under $80 http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/05uptacoaal.htm
     
  3. Apr 23, 2010 at 7:43 AM
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    A shim under the leaves would probably raise the back a 1/2".
     
  4. Apr 23, 2010 at 7:52 AM
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  5. Apr 23, 2010 at 8:04 AM
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    I think that's similar to the Toytec AAL for the TSB leafpack, which I'm leary of. Don't want too much rake.

    Any drawbacks using shims? Axle wrap maybe?
     
  6. Apr 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM
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    a 1" block would do it, you can get those pretty cheap too.
     
  7. Apr 23, 2010 at 9:01 AM
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    I think the AAL will be too much and you'll end up with a stink bug truck. I have shims and I have no axle wrap but technically, I suppose they could increase axle wrap due to the fact that you're moving the axle farther from the leaves albeit only a small amount. What they really do is point your pinion joint more directly at your carrier bearing joint in turn relieving stress on both. They will wear slower and have a lower risk of unwanted vibrations. They are about a 1/2" thick in back. Blocks will definitely increase the risk of axle wrap because they are much thicker and move the axle quite a ways from the leaves giving the already existing torque a levered mechanical advantage to twist the leaves.
     
  8. Apr 23, 2010 at 9:27 AM
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    Shackle flip kit! Adds about 1" rear lift to the truck and gets the leafs and shackle up out of the way of shit!:D
     
  9. Apr 23, 2010 at 10:34 AM
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    You will be fine with the Wheeler's TSB AAL. I don't have a straight-on shot I can give you at the moment (I'm moving and my camera is packed away), but here's a glimpse with 885 springs, stock tires, and OME shocks. I'd say there is a very mild rake from just eyeballing it in the parking lot, I've never gone to measure.

    If you don't have it already, a driveline spacer would be very good.

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  10. Apr 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM
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    A 1" block is a simple and effective option, wont lead to too much axle wrap either.



    Hey mike, we need to go 'wheel browns camp again, maybe this time you'll miss that tree stump. :laugh: :p
     
  11. Apr 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM
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  12. Apr 23, 2010 at 10:48 AM
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    1" block, shouldn't have any axle wrap since you got the tsb springs. I ran a 1" block with the non tsb springs and i only noticed very minor axle wrap. Most people wouldn't notice but i could just barely tell when i would take off hard in 1st and 2nd gear.
     
  14. Apr 23, 2010 at 3:23 PM
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    wat?
    the ATO shackle flip kit adds 1/2", a 1" block, or get someone to custome make a set of 1/2" blocks. the shims are to change to angle of the DS to the rear diff and if they do add any lift, it's minor.
     
  15. Apr 28, 2010 at 1:59 PM
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    So should he do 1/2 block and shims? I guess with the 1.5" total lift (1" TSB and .5 Block) it would'nt hurt...?
     
  16. Apr 28, 2010 at 7:29 PM
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    You went up 2 1/2" in a DC with 884's ? Hmm , might change my thoughts on going with 885's as I only want to go up 2 1/2" .

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  17. Apr 28, 2010 at 11:28 PM
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    From my understanding, the 884 won't lift any higher than 885 or 886. The difference is in how much resistance the coil has. Worse case, if you have a heavy front end and only use 884, you would nose dive when you hit the brakes. This would mean you need to step up to a heavier resistance.
     
  18. Apr 28, 2010 at 11:58 PM
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    ^^ Gotcha , thanks . So if I was considering an ARB bumper , I should probably still go with the 885's ?

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  19. Apr 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM
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    As I understood it, the 884's have the same spring rate as the 885's, but are 10 mm shorter. The 886's have a stiffer spring rate for heavy aftermarket front bumpers. I heard most everyone was getting 2.5" of lift with the 885's w/o the spacer (to achieve the full 3"). With that logic, the 884's shoulda hit around 2", but every truck is different.
     
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    The coils below are for 07-09 FJ Cruiser, 05-09 Tacoma, & 03-09 4-Runner.

    ---884--- 2" lift standard coils - add top plate spacers for full 3" lift

    ---885--- Medium 2" lift coils for 110 lbs additional front weight

    ----886--- Heavy 2" lift coils for 200+ front weight -- No top plate spacer needed--
     
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