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Packed with Technology | Falken Wildpeak A/T3W

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Discount Tire Direct, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. Feb 11, 2019 at 3:05 PM
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    Wixo

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    Just got thes in 265/75r16. They look great and different from all the others out there. Am I sensing a Falken WildPeak thread?
     
  2. Feb 11, 2019 at 3:32 PM
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    So I drove on mine today to work and home, it was pouring rain this morning, and they performed well, very little hydroplaning when hitting standing water, on the way home it was misting so still wet but just barely, quiet on highway. Still have slight vibration from 65-75 mph that goes away above and below that speed. Have appt to get road force balance and alignment(has pulled slightly to the right for a little while now) next monday.
     
  3. Feb 12, 2019 at 4:19 AM
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    Ya. I really didn't mind though. I traded mine back in, do to balancing issues though.
     
  4. Feb 12, 2019 at 4:20 AM
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    Mine had same issues. It was the tire. Different tires, both issues went away. RF may correct that though
     
  5. Feb 12, 2019 at 4:37 AM
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    I work in the US plant that makes these tires. Both our US plant and Thailand have had some uniformity issues on some of the Wildpeaks. Quality control should eliminate majority of those from hitting the market. That being said I look at some of these pictures and see some of the tires haven’t been balanced correctly.



    Here is a link to some info for the balancing markers that tire manufactures use:

    https://www.tires-easy.com/blog/what-are-the-red-and-yellow-dots-on-my-tires/
     
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  6. Feb 12, 2019 at 6:30 AM
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    My US mades have a strong new rubber smell to them too, but I actually like the smell lol.
    It sure is nice having confirmation straight from the source that some bad tires went out! I went through 9 to get a set of 4 "within spec" tires. With that being said, I honestly think my tire shop just gave up on them and told me that they all balanced right, so they wouldn't have to keep RF'ing them every week. While my vibrations now aren't as bad as my original set, I'm still not happy with them, but when you're multiple RF labor charges and many hours committed in to them, what do you do?
     
  7. Feb 12, 2019 at 7:03 AM
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    What problems were you having?

    I didn’t know a lot about tires before getting a job in this plant. Not that I know a lot, but I’m learning new things everyday. I worked in car dealerships for 14 years. I’ve seen lots of tires getting installed. When working flat rate the techs just mount them and do a quick balance. I never knew about the balancing dots and what they meant. I can say that most techs and mechanics probably don’t either. Most mount the tire and do a quick balance. Get the tire within .25oz within balance. If thy have trouble or it won’t balance I seen where they will rotate the tire a little to try and have it balance out better. I’ve also seen some people mount them with an absurd amount of wheel weights. Some people just could careless. Also a lot of shops have old machines and never recalibrate their equiptment. Some of the stuff is ancient and beat to piss. There really is a lot of factors that can go into play. Softer compounds which most tires use today actually get flat spots from sitting. You can get vibrations just from that until the tires start rolling and warm up. Some roads have a washboard effect. Around here not sure if it’s from the freeze thaw we get or something to do with the paving process or what. You could switch to a different tire with a different compound or sidewall structure and it be total immune to some of these variables
     
  8. Feb 12, 2019 at 7:18 AM
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    Bought 4 new Falken Wildpeaks AT3 SL 265/75/16 from DTD Black Friday 2018. Received the tires, and had them mounted at Walmart. Had them rebalanced at Walmart after wobble/steering wheel shake issues were noticed. That didn’t fix it, so took it somewhere else and had all 4 road force balanced. It was determined the rear 2 tires were out of round/egg shaped. Received 2 replacements, had them road forced, and both also deemed out of round. Received 2 more, had them road forced, and 1 was deemed out of round. Received 1 more, road forced, steering wheel vibe/bouncing still present. Took back same day and had the other “good” 3 tires road forced to find the culprit. All balanced fine (according to the shop), and now the only issue remaining is a steering wheel shake around 60-65 mph.

    I think @Zacowacko hit the nail on the head earlier in this thread talking about his experiences with tire shops and RF'ing tires. All of these tire shops are marketing RF as something special they offer, yet they're not truly RF'ing them. And the worst part, they don't know they're not road forcing them.. You're very correct in saying that most techs aren't knowledgeable in the field that they're working in, even in highly regarded stores. I would not be surprised if all of the 5 tires that I had sent back could have been made to work, had they truly been RF balanced.
     
  9. Feb 12, 2019 at 7:37 AM
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  10. Feb 12, 2019 at 2:49 PM
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    Looking at the Wildpeaks, are you guys seeing any benefit from the E1 over the SL rating? seems like the 10 ply might be a little overkill, but maybe its worth it out on the trail? what are your thoughts?
     
  11. Feb 12, 2019 at 9:17 PM
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    Best tires for the money, amazing in the snow and mean looking. Had these on my tundra and now on my Tacoma
     
  12. Feb 13, 2019 at 4:27 PM
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    They don't have silica compound, according to DT. So wear better. Store I got mine said they've had better luck with them, than SL
     
  13. Feb 13, 2019 at 4:31 PM
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    My DT thought they had RF machines. Even district manager was convinced. Their training info is wrong. They had to talk to Hunter rep to figure out their quick match only did rollout, not RF. Told them they should invest in one. It'd make a hell of a difference in return visits. So be weary and put eyes on the machine if you go.
     
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  14. Feb 13, 2019 at 4:33 PM
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    Guy told me their techs are low paid and 1 or 2 good ones usually. I told manager grab his best, he went out too and helped. So I commend them on that. Intend to ask the same in future balances
     
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    That pretty much made my decision. But what about ride, is it stiffer on the E1? I am ok with a little stiffer but don’t want to go overboard.
     
  16. Feb 14, 2019 at 5:41 AM
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    They'll be stiffer, but DT will trade them out if you don't like them. Think they told me 30 days. I went with the GY UTs , just cause they have me a similar price.
     
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  17. Feb 14, 2019 at 8:48 AM
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    Yeah I went back and looked at GY UT as well, those are pretty sweet, and I have always had good luck with GY’s.
     
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  18. Feb 14, 2019 at 7:33 PM
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    My last set of tires were duratracs. I liked them pretty well, even though the started to cup. They're more aggressive though and I didn't rotate and balance enough. Plus I put on heavier springs to account for winch and bumper, so we'll see. UT are stiffer than WP, no silica.
     
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    I had my local discount tire road force balance (I confirmed actual road force balance machines were present, have no real proof they were used) my wildpeaks FOUR times without any improvement. I loved how they handled snow but refused to continue driving with constant steering wheel shake from 50-70. As of today I am on Goodyear UltraTerrains. Very similar tread pattern and mountain peak snowflake thingy. Just did 40 miles on the highway and can confirm the UltraTerrains balanced perfectly first try.

    I am fully aware I probably got a bad set of tires. I really did like everything about the wildpeaks, and still kinda recommend them if you can get a good set.

    Discount Tire was great throughout the process but I did end up paying for about 1/2 of the new tires.
     
  20. Feb 15, 2019 at 3:48 AM
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    I honestly wish I would’ve had my full set refunded when I had the chance and gone with something else, I just didn’t have the extra money at the time, from paying all the mount/balance fees
     
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