Parking Brake Use

Not sure why you would've envisioned a sedan DD on here with him and his truck.. But it happens. I haven't read thru the whole thread and won't but, perhaps bc you were one of the first that posted is why you're getting quoted so much, with what you said.. I think people are just pointing out some things.. And maybe looking out for you too. Yes the ebrake is there use it, it you feel like you should, common sense, better safe than sorry too. Brakes can be fix/replaced, a rolling unoccupied vehicle can kill. Just use the ebrake OP.

 

Next time, before you do that, let it roll a little (after putting in park), you should feel/hear a click, thats the pin locking in when put in park.

 

See the thing is with the manuals.... YOU GUYS HAVE A CLUTCH, and can UNBIND THE DRIVELINE with the simple push of a pedal.

In an auto, if you are stupid enough, you can actually bind it up to where you CAN NOT get it out of park. I have seen it many times where someone parks hard against a curb throws it in park and next thing you know they simply cant get it out of park, you literally have to have someone rock the car or push you forward to unbind it enough to allow the parking pawl to come out of its notches.

 

The first picture is the output shaft of a transmission. The notches are what the park mechanism engages into to put your truck into park. Now look at the second picture. Look at how small the park mechanism is. I dont trust that little thing to ever hold my truck. I use my parking brake everywhere.

 

Yeah there's what I was talking about.. I wouldn't/don't fully trust it either.. Using Parking brake's a good habit.

 

Very well said.
Figured this would be a "share your routine with us" thread and not get so aggressive. I suppose we all have to find the right balance of risk-management while at the same time protecting the longevity of components. And yes, steep hills require a lot of care for protecting your vehicle as well as the safety of others. Even if your vehicle doesn't go flying down a hill and cause a wreck, the weight of it can slowly creep forward one gear tooth at a time and end up at the bottom of the hill in an inconvenient or unsafe place.
Keep the good vibes and info comin' people, this forum is full of good stuff!

 

I got one of those fancy remote starts. So I set the parking brake, not in gear, so I can remote start.

 

Always leave it in 1st gear and engage the parking brake.

The only time I dont do this is at home when the truck is parked infront of the garage. Ill leave it in neutral and set the parking brake only because its 100% flat

 

Never used the e brake in over 40 years of driving. Only problem is that the cable and e brake parts rust from non use.

 

Using your parking brake on a regular basis will allow your drum brakes to wear evenly.

Every time you set the brake it adjust the shoes to the drum. (At least that's what more than one brake shop has told me).

Regardless, your drums should last well over 100K.

 

Agreed, i am an adjuster. Handle these claims ALL the time. I think it is called a parking brake for a reason.

 

Not meant to hold the weight of the vehicle?! Lol. Google this: SAE J2208.

 

yes the parking pawl can hold the weight

most manufacturers recommend use the parking brake too, and not rely on the parking pawl only

this gives you three points (2 rear wheels and pawl) of safety, or two if the park brake cable is the failure

and no I am not gonna hug, sing kumbaya, and cook smores...there is some real idiotic crap in this thread

contrary to what someone else posted
a manual transmission in gear, is far stronger than the auto tranny parking pawl.

 

no pretty sure manual gear is much more reliable at engaging the output shaft
and fixing it in place

there is much more hardened metal-to-metal gear meshing in a manual transmission in gear when parked,
way stronger than an auto tranny park pawl

think of it this way. in a manual when in any gear, if you can push the vehicle hard enough it will turn the engine over. If you set up an auto tranny in some way to allow the parking pawl this same type of duty, it would snap the pawl or tooth clean off.

 

i always put it in neutral with foot on brake, then engage the parking brake, let off the brake so the parking brake is holding it, and then put it in park. just my own little ritual.

 

I don't use it either. In fact, when I got my new rear axle with disk brakes, I didn't even bother installing an E-brake.

Taco is a manual, don't use it.
FJ80 is an auto, don't use it.
2500HD auto, don't use it.
1500 work truck, don't use it.

I drive 30-40,000 miles a year. No problems not using an ebrake.

 

For the one that says you will warp your rotors by using your parking brake every time you park your vehicle. Yes it can trap heat, but read below.

A couple things to note:
1. Our trucks(Tacomas) have rear drum brakes
2. The parking brake only engages the rear brakes
3. Even on vehicles with rear disc brakes most manufacturers use a drum/disc design as shown below

 

I do this too, even in my garage. I guess its a habit. Although I have a different sequence for my auto. Hold brakes, put transmission in neutral, apply P-Brake, release brakes and put in park. To me this makes shifting to D after parking alot smoother.

I used to have another car that even after applying e-brake, it would be hard to shift to D and I would hear a thunk.

 

Not sure if when you said this "there is some real idiotic crap in this thread

contrary to what someone else posted
a manual transmission in gear, is far stronger than the auto tranny parking pawl." Then quoted me after if you're included me in as an idiot poster or not..
Either way, I'll be the first to say, I'm no "Transmission Expert", and I don't know if you are.?.. But if you get real technical about comparing a manual verse auto and one popping out verse the other.... I guess it could potentially come down to each individual tranny and the wear and tear etc etc whatever.. But regardless of what you say, there has been MANY manual transmissions pop out of gear, with people thinking it's all good to just leave it in gear and use no parking brake..

OK.
As far as the pawl, notice in a earlier post I mentioned I wouldn't fully trust it either.

And for the record, I'm done posting in a use or not use a parking/e/brake thread.... Just USE THE FACKING PARKING BREAK EVERYBODY THE END.

 

^^^not calling anyone or any specific post idiot or idiotic

the culprits and posts are self-evident including myself and mine