Pedal Commander installed....WOW

May I ask where you obtained this "actual knowledge"?

 

Does this mean you have one yourself? If not what is it that you will be recording? If you are recording something you found while conducting your internet "research", why bother? Most of us realize that internet 'research' is something one does to confirm what ever goofy idea that one already has.

I will trust my life's experience over your internet research every day for the rest of my life.

 

Again, as stated, from understanding the simple circuit that is the accelerator pedal of our trucks and how the spirit booster / pedal commander can work with that circuit.

I will be recording a stock truck with a stock throttle body showing how quickly it opens and closes in relation to pedal inputs and how the snake oil video posted is a lie. Doesnt get more life like than that my friend.

 

I feel like maybe a better description of a pedal commander experience is "increasing driving pleasure" or something like that. If it makes your truck more fun what's the issue? I guess I just don't understand why some people seem so invested in arguing against this?

I'm most interested to hear from anybody who has actually used one of these for an extended time and decided it was bad? If so, what didn't you like?

Also, to what extent has use changed gas mileage, either better or worse?

Last question, how many have used the cheap versions, like the Ikikin listed on Amazon or any of the others that look exactly the same?

 

Because of the lies spread by what it actually does (doesnt do) for our trucks.

 

I'm not interested in starting an argument but after reading this thread and others you seem to have a vested interest in arguing against the pedal commander? Why do you care so much about something you don't want to use?

 

My take on my sprint booster . Takes lag out of throttle response like they advertise . My best explanation as a idiot . 2 cars racing both run 60sec in the 1/4 mile . The one with the quicker reaction time (sprint booster ) will get there first .On street at stop Not as hesitant to merge .I just mashed
the pedal and lol. Maybe earlier gen with better throttle response not going benifit from it .

On a steady uphill drive doesnt upshift 2-3 gears or what ever and rev. Press pedal a little it upshift .
Snake oil believers dont care what they got to say . This is my take on it .

Now time to enjoy mother nature . Yea I also got a lowered prerunner .

 

I’m not sure why he’s saying these pedal mods are lies without testing one himself.

If he doesn’t want one, my feelings wouldn’t be hurt and I’m willing to respectfully wait for his videos to prove that the stock 2nd Gen V6 throttle is capable of a 1:1 pedal input to feedback ratio without mods. I just don’t like someone spouting baseless claims that a company is lying without any testing or experience with a product. I did some research and liked that Sprint Booster was first to release the product, simple to use and an American company so I went with them.

From my 3rd Gen experience, the SB does exactly what they say it will; I turn it on and the throttle is more responsive. I can hear the engine rev without lag, my tach jumps quicker and the truck will respond by accelerating quicker. I don’t have to see the throttle blade jump, there are other, more useful, observations I can make to experience the effect of the SB.

Is this a horsepower gain? No. Does SB say it’s a hp gain? No. Can I simulate the effect by stepping on the pedal faster? No, the lag is still there and is demonstrated in SB’s youtube video. Put your foot to the floor with the SB off and the truck still lags a little.

When I have this thing in its highest sensitivity I can move the pedal a few degrees and get a very noticeable jump in RPM. It’s pretty handy in heavy city traffic when I want my truck to respond quicker. I’ve tried it on some basic off-roading trails and the touchier throttle is also very useful for moving over larger obstacles. The power you have is there when you want it.

Does everyone need one? No. Your truck adapts to your driving style and if you like the way it handles, save your money. Does this increase fuel consumption? You bet. I don’t leave it on all the time, only when I need it; it doesn’t help me much on long highway drives so I just leave it off.

The only reason why I wouldn’t use it anymore is because I’m tuning my truck to change shift points, etc and several experienced tuners have told me that the amplified throttle input of the SB in conjunction with a tune’s increased throttle input will force my truck in “limp mode”. However, the SB is still useful as a pedal lock for anti theft and valeting, so I can still get some value out of it if I keep it.

 

I just went back & re-read this complete thread again, titled "2ng generation pedal commander reviews". It's about like this one, appx 90% of people who try them like them & appx. 90% of the people who haven't tried don't like them. Let's just forget about the ones who HAVE NOT tried one. Why would those 90% of the folks that HAVE tried them want to lie to everyone saying they like them if they really don't? I'd think after seeing all these folks liking them & bragging on them, I'd have to at least try one, just to see what I'd been missing. After all if you try the Sprint Booster you can return it for a full, no question asked refund, won't cost anything & can be installed & tried in appx. 10 min. Nothing to lose. Dang I found where you've been knocking these things since May 9 2019 & still never tried one, I just don't understand.

 

When I was in grade school more than seventy years ago, there was always a kid in class who, for whatever reason, needed to be the smartest kid in the class. And he was forever attempting to demonstrate brilliance for all to see - to the unending boredom of all. We have one on this thread. And so, we have his theories, his charts, his graphs and his opinions.
I think that we have been promised this video before - here or on another similar thread. He claims the SB video is a lie and, should he ever post his video, how will I know that his video is not a lie? He does seem to have an odd obsession with what others choose to buy and use. So, I am left with a choice: Do I trust the internet smart kid or do I trust myself? What ever will I choose?

PS: As a tribute to my old stiff joints, it took me longer than ten minutes to install. Most of that time was spent getting down and then getting back up again.

 

Right on the money I too feel the pain getting up and down . Gotta keep moving or freeze up lol...

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/throttle-control.725458/#post-25841965

Update: a few legends in this thread use pedal mods with tunes so I’m probably keeping my SB.

 

Thanks charlie, I hadn't seen that thread. I've never been around a tune thing, but have wondered about the differences in the tune stuff vs the controller, it always looked like the tune was more in depth than just plugging in a controller. I did the SB myself, but would have needed to find a computer whiz somewhere to do the Tune thing for me. Hope that thread you put up there helps those who are deciding what they want to do. Keep us informed if you get the tune going, weather you keep the SB or get rid of it. Nobody mentioned it in that other thread, but after the "TUNE" is installed, is it adjustable? or after it is in there does it stay that way till another tune is done?

 

One thing to keep in mind...depending on the manufacturer, a tune may void your warranty (if it's still under warranty, that is). An accelerator pedal controller does not, as it does not alter the programming or modify components. It just alters a signal.

 

exactly.

For all the people touting that the pedal commander / spirit booster etc reduces lag of the pedal to throttle body..... Heres your video proof that a stock truck, with a stock tune with none of these snake oil products has essentially no lag.

Again... these products only simulate you pushing down on the gas pedal more or less than you actually are on our trucks by nature of the simple analog circuit that the throttle pedal is.

 

Notice how in the first three seconds of the video when you apply normal pressure to the pedal and the throttle blade acts like it just woke up from a long slumber? That’s what I want to improve. That’s what all of us want to improve. I don’t want to jam on the pedal to go from 1500 rpm to 5000 rpm to get down the on ramp to sync up with freeway traffic, I just want the throttle to open a little more.

I know that the signal just gets altered. I saw some conversations about guys building their own amplifiers with Radio Shack parts but I don’t want to do that so I bought an SB and it remedied my issue.

As far as “snake oil”, it does everything SB said it would so I still don’t see my purchase as a waste of money.

 

thanks for the video. I think what folks are looking at is stepping on the pedal and the vehicles reaction is linear. For example, my 2018 Camry is terrible on take off as you have to push the pedal farther than expected to get vehicle to move. If a pedal commander can alter that feel it’s well worth the money. Clearly it doesn’t add HP but it changes the driving satisfaction.

For the video, I would like to see if the throttle body opens linearly compared to pedal compression. That is a missing piece of the puzzle. My opinion is. 2nd gen truck doesn’t need this, my guess is newer trucks need some help like my 2018 Camry.

 

Well done.

 

Fake news