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PennSilverTaco's "Perfect 5-Lug Regular Cab" Build, Aspergers, and General BS MegaThread!

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by PennSilverTaco, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. Sep 14, 2021 at 6:26 PM
    tacotoe

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    Many years ago a friend thought it would be good maintenance practice to spray WD-40 in a running drill motor. I look at him likeo_O
    About that time a big ball of fire flames come out:rofl:
    I don't recall if that was the drill motors last goodbye or what, remember it was on its last leg anyway and he trying to rejuvenate it or something.
     
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  2. Sep 14, 2021 at 6:34 PM
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    I got two box fan motors that work, but are from newer fans that the plastic fell apart.

    But I’ll bet you can get that one working, something probably just needs rewiring, or a new switch. Just start slowly tearing it down, you’ll find the problem. Also, good time to invest in a multimeter, not expensive.
     
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    I appreciate a good solid fan, especially with metal blades. They should hum with the smoothness of an aircraft engine at cruise. I dont think this is economically worth the time and effort to fix, but as a restoration could be a fun project.

    A multimeter will make diagnosis far easier. Without one I’d suggest bypassing the switch and applying power directly to the motor. If it works it is likely a bad switch, if it doesn’t it is a motor issue.

    As a side note, I cannot stand those cheap $20 box fans you find everywhere. The build quality is poor and you can tell the vibration in the fan causes uneven turbulence in the airflow leading to a poor harmonic sound, they don’t make that smooth hum like a more quality unit. These Power Plus units by Lasko are a decent bridge for a better box fan that is readily available. The pictures look nearly the same as the cheaper units but the build is beefier, they put out more air and the sound is much better even though they still use a plastic blade. I’d still prefer one with a metal blade.
    https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/st...VHh-tBh3WpQx5EAQYASABEgLdi_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
     
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    A lot of times all you need to do to fix that vibration is to balance the blades. Given that it is a cheap fan they definitely didn't bother to do that. But basically just find the heavy spot and put a small screw in the other side. You'll have to experiment with the right size screw though.
     
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    I have a cousin to that fan. I think it a VIM, at least 55-60 yrs. old and works like a champ... I'd vacuum the motor, no WD-40. If you already used WD blow it out w/compressed air. As has been said check for voltage starting at the cord.
     
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    tacotoe

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    Before I log out for the evening; I bought a replacement motor for my bathroom fart fan few maybe even 5 years ago and it's still working. Hasn't caught fire or anything, I was a little concerned given how cheap it was from Amazon.
    Be nice to see you get that thing going.
     
  7. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:05 PM
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    Nice find! Built when simple household products were designed to last.

    The motor should clean up gently with an old paint brush and a vacuum cleaner for starters, then some gentle compressed air action.
    Don't use WD-40.
    A few drops of 20 WT non-detergent engine oil in each port is all that is needed for lubrication. You may find a small bottle of "electric motor oil" at a real hardware store, it is the same 20 WT. The motor bushings are made of a material that will absorb the oil, sintered bronze, commonly called an Oilite bushing.

    First thing to do is inspect every inch of the cord visually and also by gently flexing it. Pay special attention right at the plug and where it enters the fan. These are the areas most prone to damage and often your problem is there.

    It the cord passes the visual/flex test now it is time for a meter. If the cord is in good condition there is really no need to replace it.

    There are only 2 wires, check each for continuity point to point - plug to switch, through the switch, switch to motor.

    Nowadays you can buy a really nice meter for much less than $100, no handy guy should be without one. (or two, or three...)
     
  8. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:09 PM
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    Have not read all the posts, so if this has been suggested, please disregard, but you could have the motor rebuilt. Before I did that, I would check the rheostat (switch). Try bypassing it and seeing if the fan motor runs first, then find an electrical shop that can rebuild the motor. A new fan will still be cheaper, though.
     
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    What sort of shop would one go to for an electric motor rebuild of a household appliance? I have an unrelated need.
     
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    Places rebuild motor windings
     
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    Most every town large enough to have some industry has an electric motor shop, inquire at an electrical/plumbing supply house (look for HVAC contractors vans out front), they should be able to direct you.

    Industrial motors are designed to be disassembled and repaired including replacing the windings if required. Most of the time a standard motor below 5 horsepower will be replaced rather than rewound as the time and material cost get too close to the value of the motor.

    To give you a general idea of the cost, a light repair of a 5 horsepower, 240 volt, single phase air compressor motor - new bearings, clean up and test - was around $60 - 100 last time I had one done, perhaps $25 more if a capacitor tests bad. If the same motor truly burned up and needed to be rewound it would probably be replaced, the new one would be cheaper.

    Most household appliances motors aren't designed for easy service and not cost effective to be repaired for the same reason.
    That said it never hurts to ask them.
     
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    Taking it to work today to make use of a multimeter...

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    Fits in the truck nicely...

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    Be careful of the grills, they get brittle over the years. Nice that the entire unit is in nice condition.
     
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    One of the electrical engineers at work got a healthy zap from the part of the plug that runs into the switch, so I'm scrapping this thing...

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    So, it turns out that the only reason she blocked me is because she didn't like things I was posting on Facebook (things that would get you a 30-day vacation here on TW ;)) and felt overwhelmed; She spilled tomato sauce on her shirt when we went to the demolition derby a couple weeks ago, bought a new shirt at the demo derby, changed in the ladies room, and then left the stained shirt in my truck. I did not discover this until two days ago when I was cleaning out the truck; I called her home phone (she'd blocked my cell number, again over stuff I posted on Facebook she found to be obnoxious). I was thinking she'd gone off the deep end and I was gonna just mail her shirt to her; She called me yesterday evening and explained the real story. I returned her shirt to her, and when I went over there we reached a mutual agreement that we would just be friends...

    She needs help, and I am trying to help her get it, but there is only so much I can do!
     
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    Read above; Girlfriend blocked me for a decidedly bullshit reason...
     
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    Good deal ,but I wouldn't get to involved
     
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    She has this 13-year old American Eskimo dog named Chelsea; The dog is deaf and just barks like crazy at anyone who comes into the house that doesn't live there, no matter how many times that person comes over...

    She has actually gotten very aggressive when, purely out of reflex, I yelled at the dog to shut up. She also got very angry with me last night when I was there because I called her dog a dingus...

    I call Porter a dingus all the time, and consider it a term of endearment!

    It's one thing to think someone is insulting your dog and ask them not to, but this girl got pure rage in her eyes and raised her voice; This is the same way she reacted when I got irate with her for throwing a soda can out of my truck. I can't be in a relationship with a woman if I think she's gonna physically assault me over a little constructive criticism...

    By the way, I told her that "Dingus" is a term of endearment, and her mom is normally overly protective of the dog sided with me, saying that it was in fact a term of endearment.
     
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