Pennzoil Platinum Sythetic Good for 15 Years or 500K?!

Good. Good

 

Pennzoil is saying if you only use their motor oil, and change it at the vehicle manufacturer specified intervals (5k, 10k), then Pennzoil will "warranty" your engine for oil-related damage for 15 years or 500k miles.

They are NOT claiming that their oil does not need to be changed for 15 years or 500k miles!

The oil change interval is determined by the auto manufacturer, NOT the oil manufacturer!

 

Oh no ! another oil thread....! Stick to the damn manual !

 

Or if you really want to know, get an oil analysis from Blackstone Labs. I know exactly how far I can drive with a particular oil. NO guesses. NO unnecessary changes.

Plus peace of mind on the engine internals are not wearing prematurely.

 

Your truck not mine

 

I know exactly how far I can go before I change my oil too! It doesn't cost me anything or require me to draw a sample of oil and send it someplace
for a fee: 5,000 miles. A little light comes on under the tachometer on the bottom and it even comes with every trim level: no need to spend
thousands for SR5, TRD Pro, Limited or the ultimate: "Army Prep Package" .... Ready??

"Service Required"

It even blinks on-and-off and stuff to annoy you like stay on all the time if you exceed that many miles! Perfect! Life is good.

 

I have yo

I offer Science, you are offering faith? A type of religion? Some guy clutches an article of faith, sez the Earth is 500yrs. old, or some guy clutches a manual, sez, 5000mi is his article of faith. . . . I mean, if you want to throw oil change money at me, do it brother!! LOL!

Seriously, you may mean well, but you are incredibly ill-informed. I may be new here, but I come off other forums with DECADES of observation of oil analysis and passenger car engine lubrication. I've forgotten more than many believe they know about engine lubrication. I will be getting an oil analysis and proceeding with facts and knowledge, not faith. I will share with anyone willing to listen!

 

I hear you, but: Yes: I guess I am (unintentionally) offering faith. (to a point) Faith is a good thing in certain situations and sometimes it's all you have: For example when I take off in a plane and fly it to my destination and then back home, I have faith that the mechanic(s) on the ground that service and maintain it, and sign off on same, have done their job and not just mailed it in. When you're thousands of feet up in the air flying over a neighborhood, city, body of water, or wilderness (especially a wilderness) you have to have faith someone changed the oil when they were supposed too.....Sometimes it's all you have. It helps to delay getting gray hair or going bald or yelling at the dog for no good reason.

The "faith" part of a Toyota oil change reminder lamp is the assumption that some Toyota engineer, scientist, whatever, way back in 2005 or so determined that 5,000 miles was a sound interval to change the oil in their vehicles and it seems to have proven true.

Welcome to the forum!

 

Meh.

 

I am a licensed mechanic, Airframe and Powerplant So. you should know better . . . managers of auto, diesel, fleet operations, General Aviation owner/operators, and Air Transport Operations ALL use oil analysis. They know that lubricants have changed since say 2013 to 2015. . . . when Toyotas were put through the engine design phase and a nominal OCI was chosen based on the tribology known at that time!!

You want to throw your money down the Quick Oil Change oil reclamation drain - - and you have the right to do with you own money as you see fit!!

What you should not do is counsel other people to waste their personal $$ based on superstition or faith. I am potentially saving these people money with scientific analysis, and I will share my findings freely. FWIW modern synthetic oils like Pennzoil or Mobil 1 etc. - - 2022 oils not 2015 oils - - have shown to easily meet drain intervals of at least 7000 miles. (actually more, but we start from a safe interval) We get an analysis at 7000. I bet 'dollars to donuts' that Blackstone Labs will tell me that 7 to 9000 miles is safe with detergent to spare. Money saved starting at the 3rd oil change. Science!

 

I am also a certificated A&P airmen. Not to go off on tangent but Ive watched guys torque a wheel on a regional jet without ever using a torque wrench so while i know most passengers just have faith and that is a way to get through it, just know that aviation maintenance is not as precise as one might hope just watch the Mayday series if you need vindication.
That being said I understand your point on faith Williston. I am not trying to get into oil analysis really though I do agree with FN Browning that the service intervals and oils available were probably different when the truck was first made, mine is an 2007 Prerunner V6.
Frankly I do not care about Pennzoil and their misleading mileage intervals I was looking for something like Mobil 1s 10,000 mile change interval guarantee fully synthetic and that's not what Pennzoil means. I was not aware oil company even got into guaranteeing mileage just based on using their oil for a long time seems like that would open them up to all kinds of liability from those whos engine fail but not because the oil didn't do its job.
One thing aviation maintenance does do well though is set mostly clear standards, Pennzoil listing a mileage and Mobil 1 listing a mileage and having guarantees is bound to be misinterpreted by someone else besides me.

 

I really think you just don't know how to read! Jesus christ!

 

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Also screw Pennzoil and their stupid NOT a change interval guarantee its the dumbest thing EVER. Ive never used Pennzoil and def dont plan to now!

 

If the manual told you to stick ur w@#$r in a light socket would you do it ??

 

Just change the oil every 5,000 miles or every year with any brand & be happy

 

Okie Dokie

 

"What you should not do is counsel other people to waste their personal $$ based on superstition or faith. I am potentially saving these people money with scientific analysis, and I will share my findings freely. FWIW modern synthetic oils like Pennzoil or Mobil 1 etc. - - 2022 oils not 2015 oils - - have shown to easily meet drain intervals of at least 7000 miles. (actually more, but we start from a safe interval) We get an analysis at 7000. I bet 'dollars to donuts' that Blackstone Labs will tell me that 7 to 9000 miles is safe with detergent to spare. Money saved starting at the 3rd oil change. Science! "

THis supports how Mobil 1 synthetic is guaranteed for an oil change interval of 10,000 miles.

 

Bingo!

...or just pay attention to the little blinking light that you can hardly see under the tachometer. (which BTW shuts off so fast no one ever notices it until you hit 7,000 miles: so "happy papi.")

 

@Williston @Robnik @TacoBell07


Here is an example of a Blackstone Labs Oil Analysis with TBN. What is this TBN? For years, Total Base Number (TBN) has been used as one of the key measurements in the field to help determine remaining oil life by indicating the amount of performance-related additive left in the engine oil.

I know Kia not Taco, but here is an oil analysis of my Kia, and as the alert reader can easily deduce, 8000 OCIs were completely safe in this Theta II engine. Remember, it does you no good to pour useful oil into the quick change reclamation sump. Money wasted.
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BMW and Porsche thought that was a great idea as well. It has cost people a WHOLE lot of money having to replace engines. The N series BMW engines are damn near bullet proof...if you change the freaking oil. I have had a couple of them with over 100k on them and the key was documented oil changes at the severe duty cycle (7500 miles). As for Porsche Aside from the IMS bearing failures the majority of cylinder scoring issues are because of oil problems.

I will keep changing my oil (and recycling it) every 5k (or whatever the light is) and just not worry about it. Oil is cheap...an engine is not.