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Personal Defense ammo....

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by chris4x4, May 9, 2010.

  1. May 9, 2010 at 11:29 AM
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    chris4x4

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    Do you prefer a heavier or lighter bullit weight?

    Personally, I have lite weight bullits (165 gr.) in my .45, but use 147's in the 9mm.
     
  2. May 9, 2010 at 11:32 AM
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    i honestly use whatever i buy to go shooting aslong as its not american eagle ammo
    for personal defense i dont think it matters that much either way the guy is not gonna live through 9 rounds of 45acp no matter what bullet it is
     
  3. May 9, 2010 at 11:35 AM
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    HEAVY loads, Super expanding semi-jacketed hydrashoks +P+. One shot to put em down, followed by 15 more to stop the threat. And my fur coated razor blade to eat the body.

    Edit: Cant believe that I beat Packerfan on this post.
     
  4. May 9, 2010 at 11:44 AM
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    I don't know what brand/kind weight....but hollowpoints for home defense (9mm).

    Everything else we use light weight regular ammo jackets or without. We tried heavier stuff in both our handgun & shot guns - and it's just too much.
    My husband has shoulder surgery last year.... and he thinks it's because of the previous summers of shooting trap/skeet every weekend. For handguns, that heavy shit stings!!!
     
  5. May 9, 2010 at 11:48 AM
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    I use the Hornady Critical Defense. It seems to work really well in ballistics gel tests. Honestly, 9mm, 40, 45- whatever...you are not in the fight after you get shot. I go for the heavier bullets, but I carry a Glock 26, so the weight difference in the 9mm is minimal.
     
  6. May 9, 2010 at 11:58 AM
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    I just keep my .410 out of the safe, with a couple 00 shells near by.
     
  7. May 9, 2010 at 6:26 PM
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    Currently I have Winchester Supreme Elite 9mm +P 124gr. JHP Bonded......

    Are they the best? I hope I never have to find out.
    Do I think putting 2-3 of these in a bad guy will stop him? Yes.
     
  8. May 9, 2010 at 6:32 PM
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  9. May 9, 2010 at 6:45 PM
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    No offense, but when the hell did most of you ever have to fend of an armed attacker? If you want a home defense gun then get yourself a shotgun and load it with bird-shot. At any range that you really are in danger it will kill and it is far less likely to go through a wall and take out a family member or a neighbor. A pump shotgun is good for two reasons: the first is that you can keep the chamber empty for safety purposes; the second is, due to TV and movies, just about everyone knows the sound of a pump-action shotgun -- just pumping the thing will probably result in a prowler getting the hell out of there. Don't think bird-shot can kill? In my work as a paramedic I never saw a close-range bird-shot-loaded shotgun blast that didn't kill.

    Edit: Oh, yes we did have one guy who got shot in the leg with a shotgun slug, it didn't kill him but it sure did stop him, as it broke his femur. Conversely, I once had a guy who had had a full clip of 9mm shot into both of his legs stand up and walk to the ambulance.
     
  10. May 9, 2010 at 6:59 PM
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    I have never had to use a firearm for defense thankfully.
    I do agree that bird shot very close can kill someone, but that would not be what I would use. The old guys at "The Box of Truth have done some great work on loads and penetration which I find very interesting.

    I will not depend on the racking of the slide in a defensive situation to scare away a person that is threatining me or family members. I am sure you have run in to many folks that may be zipped up on various types of drugs and cannot be depened upon to react in a reasonable way.

    Just my way of thinking, hope like hell I never have to defend myself with a firearm but if I do I will not offer any advantage or sound warning to the attacker.
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm Lot's of info about all kinds of ammo and penetration.
     
  11. May 9, 2010 at 7:01 PM
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    ive seen someone get shot in the shoulder/neck area with bird shot and not die...and it was within 10 yards

    now then

    a shotgun can be a perfectly good home defense weapon...the only major flaw for the average person is that pump sound and heres why

    if they are armed and have any thought or intentions of hurting you...youve now given away your tactical advantage with the sound by letting them know youre up, awake, and aware of them...and more than likely your position

    personally...if i was going to hunker down like i highly suggest most people do...a shotgun would be fine...but i dont particularly like making noise...it is nice in that spray and pay kind of way that the average person will need when the adrenaline spikes and you have nothing but gross motor skills functioning...

    personally i keep my glock next to my bed

    both my shotguns are rack ready and easy to get to but im reaching for the handgun first


    as far as ammo goes i have a variety of "defense" rounds

    in my G22 its Winchester Ranger SXT (cant recall the weight) .40
    G27 - Federal Premium expanding FMJ 135gr .40
    Ruger LCP- Hornady Tap JHP 90gr .380
    Mossberg 500 - some form of 00buck
    Benelli Nova - some form of 00buck
     
  12. May 9, 2010 at 7:09 PM
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  13. May 9, 2010 at 7:15 PM
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    chris4x4 [OP] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    I have drawn my handgun 2 times on a person. First was a guy breaking into a car, and when I said "Hey!", He pulled a screw driver at me. Then, I had a guy break into my house....While I was on the couch.

    Also, I disagree with the racking of a shot gun. Sounds good in the movies, but the last thing you want when your home is broken into, is to let him/her/them know your location. You have the "High ground" in this situation, as YOU know your home......They dont. They dont know where you are.
     
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    Ah yes! PICS!!! :)

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    i keep federal hydra-shok's in my 9mm. they are 147 grain.
     
  17. May 9, 2010 at 7:30 PM
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    I think it also says Do not eat......meh....I never read those things....
     
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    I prefer heavier weights.

    Federal HST in 147gr flavor in my Glock 19 that I carry all day every day.

    Federal HST is getting hard to get though...guess Federal is really enforcing their LEO sales only policy. If I can't get any more HST I'll probably go back to something like Speer Gold Dot, Winchester Ranger T, or Remington Golden Saber. CorBon kicks ass but way too pricey for my taste.

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    Yeah, I stippled my G19 so my sweaty hands could get a better grip on it.
     
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    the G19 is a fine weapon, its what I keep in my truck. I love Wet Okole for offering the "CCW Holster option" on the drivers seat.
     
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    I reload, and I keep what I call a bear load in my 44mag. I have shot deer at 40 yards with this load, and they drop like a sac of spuds. It is a 300grain hornady XTP, with 20grains of w-296 behind it. You will not walk out of my house if it hits you.
     
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