Picking up a 24

I’m now conflicted worse then before I posted this, thank you.

 

Test drive a manual. What annoys one person may not annoy you.

 

My bad. I was told that it lessens the life of the turbo and they do not have. Dealer said it had the auto stop but not start stop?

 

The turbo is water cooled. It will be fine with the auto s/s setup. Anything with auto stop must have auto start, otherwise you’d be manually starting it at a stoplight every time

 

ha, fair enough - kind of a different situation though, since any hybrid by design should be going to battery at a full stop regardless.

so to clarify - in GASOLINE models, only 2WDs have it.

 

Was the tacoma you test drove an automatic? How did it feel compared to the 4.0 in your 4runner?

 

You won't, but the auto will eat the manual's lunch off the line. Autos are just to fast and the extra gears being managed faster than you can manually switch is a large deficit. A great illustration of this is Seth McFarlands drag races between his built out 1000HP Corvette and an F150 with a supercharger at around 700 HP. The 'Vette is a 6 speed stick and the F150 is a 10 speed auto. The auto was able to make up for the power difference and the trucks bricklike aeros and it gave the 'Vette a run for its money in every run, even winning some.

All that to say that the detune won't matter, but for get up and go the manual won't feel like the auto.

 

Someone told you a bunch of BS. I’ve owned several turbo vehicles over the last 10 years, and my Tacoma is the only one that didn’t have it.

 

1) Buy it if you want it.
2) Stay with the automatic, better for off-road and commute traffic.

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...iven-a-4th-gen-sr.837543/page-2#post-29992120

 

Why did Toyota detune the manual transmission variants?

 

Water and oil, though air does remove a ton of heat

 

Drivability and hammering the crankshaft were mentioned in the sheldon vids last year

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...24-mt-having-less-power-than-the-auto.818799/

 

Interesting, thanks.

 

I will sleep easy tonight knowing my work here is done.

 

I don't see the appeal of the manual on the 4th gen, or a stick in any pickup being built in 2025. You will be driving a modern truck with old manual transmission technology.

I'd get a previous generation truck with a manual before buying a 4G stick.

I'd rather see it as an option than not at all, but are there more than 100 people who would buy one, and that's if they could find one.

 

Wait for 2025 or 2026 model if you can, the issues that 2024 has will all be filtered out.

 

This.

If you want a slick shifting 0-60 redline machine, buy a GR Corolla instead. You'll hate the Tacoma manual.

The Tacoma manual is very old-school truck manual (with a lot better synchronization). Low first, not quite a granny gear. 2nd is the handy "keep rolling, not quite stopped, around the parking lot and whatnot gear". 3rd is the pulling hard and accelerating gear. 4th is the up to highway speed gear. 5th and 6th are cruising/overdrive gears.

It has plenty of torque, and you can slow roll/lazy shift like a grandpa all day long. The power hits hard from 2200-4500, and tapers off a little toward redline. That's good for pulling something heavy in 3rd gear up a hill. You don't need the extra RPM because there's a lot of power coming in the next shift. 6th has plenty of power on the highway, and there's no need to downshift.

I love the way the turbo audibly spools up as you ask for and get more power in a particular gear. Sounds like the turbo in a Cummings 6 or similar.