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Pissed off about MPG after new tires

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Cutter_, Sep 17, 2020.

  1. Sep 18, 2020 at 7:54 AM
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    Let me know if you do. We can drive side-by-side with each other, making awkward gestures, as my OCD is kicked in with mpg and yours with frame rust :)
     
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    4 run, 2 don't
    OP left :burp:
     
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    he finally figured out he bought a E rated LT tire all terrain that weighs 50 pds. made for the BAJA 500 on his DD Grocery getter
     
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  5. Sep 18, 2020 at 8:10 AM
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    4 run, 2 don't
    I love my E rated tires though
     
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    How does "rolling resistance" play into this? I know that my current set of Michelin LTX-2s "feel" more resistant to my butt dyno than the previous two sets of essentially the same tire.
    Maybe OP's new tires don't simply roll as easy as the old set.
     
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  7. Sep 18, 2020 at 9:36 AM
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    Yes, they do, actually.

    where F = force of gravity, r = distance between center of masses of objects

    [​IMG]

    and weight = mass * F


    So if you want to loose some weight, go up in altitude.

    I mean, it's a tiny amount given r changes from 41,801,760 feet to 41,807,040 feet (0.01%)
     
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    It plays a role, sure. The weight plays the biggest role because of inertia. It's hard to get those pigs rolling from a stop, so the motor works harder and sucks more gas. So E rated tires suck the most in city driving/stop and go traffic.

    At consistent highway speeds there's going to be less of an influence from the weight, and more from the rolling resistance.
     
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    Can you reliably measure your gas mileage to 0.01% accuracy (you'd need greater accuracy, actually, like .001%), and control all the other variables that have a much higher impact on efficiency (like air/fuel ratio)?

    If so, then yes.
     
  10. Sep 18, 2020 at 10:06 AM
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  12. Sep 22, 2020 at 10:22 AM
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    Hey sorry for the late reply. I used to have two stock BFG A/Ts and two aftermarket A/Ts on it from the previous owner, 265/70/16 stock size. The tires were so worn down Pep Boys wouldn't patch them. I had Falken Wildpeak H/Ts put on. They ride better than the worn A/Ts, but I'm getting almost 100 miles less per tank. I called the store and they said they've never heard of that issue with these tires. WTH???
     
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    So what's that in % loss? For me, that'd be like a 40% drop, and there's no way tires alone would cause that high of a drop in mileage.

    I think you need to look into other causes of poor fuel economy.
     
  15. Sep 22, 2020 at 11:09 AM
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    Yeah, I don't know what could cause it right after I have them change my tires. Nothing else has changed on the truck. Maybe someone siphoned my gas... lol. I will continue to keep an eye on it and report back after the next tank
     
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    Yeah, don't just go by one tank. Once you get a couple tanks in at least. Then maybe start thinking about other things to check.

    Could easily be a coincidence that there are other things wrong, too.

    That said, I typically get about 220 or so per tank for city driving in my 4x4 with 32" E rated A/T's.
     
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  17. Sep 22, 2020 at 12:27 PM
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    Bad alignment can do that.
     
  18. Sep 22, 2020 at 12:29 PM
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    Cutter_ [OP] I probably could have googled this

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    I had the alignment done, it's spot on. Still room for error?
     
  19. Sep 22, 2020 at 12:35 PM
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    If it is
    If it is actually good then that doesn’t apply. Did you get the print out that showed the specs?
     
  20. Sep 22, 2020 at 12:52 PM
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    Cutter_ [OP] I probably could have googled this

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    Yeah it was off by a few fractions of an inch. It was my first time having an alignment done on a vehicle, so I only understood what the tech explained to me.
     

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