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Please school me on 4wd! 1st 4wd Truck

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by Fernando, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. Aug 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM
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    absolutly not. there is zero reason to use it unless there is a foot of water in the road. and dirt and debris is floating in your way. even then I wouldn't use it untill the tires actually started to spin and break traction.

    4wd is used only for LOW TRACTION situations. pavement, even when covered in water still has plenty of traction
     
  2. Aug 30, 2013 at 5:46 PM
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    x2, no reason to use 4wd in the rain. If you think there is, you're either a really shitty driver or you need to slow the f down.
     
  3. Aug 30, 2013 at 5:49 PM
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    also, i dont think having 4wd on will stop you from hydroplaning at all. its like hitting a patch of ice, having the front spinning with power wont help you
     
  4. Aug 30, 2013 at 5:50 PM
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    :amen:
     
  5. Aug 30, 2013 at 6:14 PM
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    Being in 4WD on wet/icy pavement keeps all 4 tires rotating near the same, you will feel more secure and as long as you are not binding (turning on dry pavement), you hurt nothing. AWD is superior on pavement in bad weather and it has a central differential so there is no bind on dry pavement when turning. 4WD is AWD without the dry pavement application.

    Now, do you need to use 4WD on rainy days? No, no more than other cars need it. However, it conditions get REALLY BAD, you paid for a 4WD, so USE IT if it provides safer driving or passing through a low traction situation.

    It would be real stupid to get stuck because you waited too long to engage the 4WD, right? Don't fear it, use it! I have been owning and driving 4WDs since 1975 and never had one fail or break from using it on stormy days (always under 60 mph). Toyota recommends using it 10 miles a month, too. If the weather is great most of the year (like here in San Diego) then only use it on straight roads, if dry, if you can't get off the pavement.

    It is a dial or a button for most of our trucks... shift into and out of H4, while driving, under 60 mph... SIMPLE, EASY.
     
  6. Aug 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM
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    Consider the fact that you should only use 4wd when traction conditions are not optimal and consider asking that question again ;)

    FWIW, if you can safely go 62mph and you aren't driving an off-road race, then you do not need 4wd.
     
  7. Aug 30, 2013 at 10:13 PM
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    I shift to 4x4 on the fly all the time at speeds of 60-65 mph.My winters are a lot of fun.
     
  8. Aug 31, 2013 at 5:54 AM
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    I guess I'm a really shitty driver...

    Either that or I understand driving in a really dry climate and what happens to the oil buildup on the first rain after a long dry spell.

    Yes, I've spun out the rear end making a left turn through an intersection coming off the line and not hammering it.

    Understand your local conditions and how your truck responds in them. Rear wheel drive + light rear end = Good Times!
     
  9. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:16 AM
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    Lol...thanks man!!
     
  10. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:24 AM
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    Ive used 4 wheel drive in the rain many times. Roads can get slick during the first few mins of a down pour.
     
  11. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:34 AM
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    I agree but 4wd isn't the answer. 4wd will help you get up to speed but doesn't help you stop any faster. That's the reason you find so many 4wd vehicles in the ditch during a snow storm. In many cases it provides a false sense of security and many people would be better off staying out of 4wd and simply slowing down. It's not going to hurt the drive train, I'll give you that, but I don't think it's necessary either.
     
  12. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:37 AM
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    In desert areas, the roads get slicker than snot at first rain. Ive spun out 2 times in situations like that. The dust that accumulates, oil, rubber, etc., is pretty slick when a little water is applied. After about 15 mins, or so, depending on the amount of rain, it can be tricky to drive in.
     
  13. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:44 AM
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    You're in the middle of the desert so I won't pretend to say I know what you mean, never driven there so I'll take your word for it. That being said, people have used the same excuse up here, in New England also. We get a fair amount of rain and the roads will get a little slick when the rain first starts but nothing that even remotely calls for 4wd.

    The problem is, many people spin their tires a bit, put it in 4wd, they can now accelerate better so they drive faster. The problem is, your braking is reduced by the same amount due to low traction whether you're in 4wd or 2wd. If roads get slick and you put it in 4wd AND slow down, great, but most people tend to drive faster because they think they have sooo much better traction in 4wd.

    Still don't think it's necessary in the rain though :)
     
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    It ain't about getting up to speed nor braking. It is about maintaining traction in a low traction and uncertain environment. Plain and simple.

    Taking a turn in a rear-wheel drive vehicle with a light rear-end on an oil and water slicked intersection while staying with traffic can be fun times.

    Your rain environment is vastly different than mine. Especially with all the idiots here that freak when a couple raindrops touch their windshield. Half of them pretend it is a sunny dry day the other half resort to driving 25mph under the speed limit.
     
  15. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:48 AM
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    Understood, now read the paragraph after the one you quoted... :rolleyes:
     
  16. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:55 AM
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    Until you experience it, its hard to understand. Its not so much the speed, or acceleration, but rather the extra driven wheels. I used to fight using 4x4 in the rain, but, even when starting off in second gear, and finding myself pointed in the other direction, I figured "Fuck it", and use it when I can. Hell......There have been times, driving in my car at 10 mph below the posted limit, that my stability control has kicked in due to the lack of traction. Putting the truck in 4 wheel drive is added security in my opinion.
     
  17. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:56 AM
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    Read it. I still don't think you really understand given your closing statement. :rolleyes:
     
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    But how did you use 4wd in your Prerunner :stirthepot:
     
  19. Aug 31, 2013 at 7:58 AM
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    I aknowledged that I've never experienced the situations you and Chris are describing in the desert :notsure:
     
  20. Aug 31, 2013 at 8:00 AM
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    I actually tried not to drive my Prerunner when it would rain :eek: Its a wiggly sonofabitch in the wet. The Dodge diesel I would use 4x4 and second gear starts, my Dakota (auto) used 4 hi when starting and turning. The car......well......I keep it in front wheel drive :p
     
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