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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by tcBob, May 12, 2009.

  1. Jun 28, 2012 at 8:09 PM
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    Brunes

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    Then go discuss it on your forum. I'm not sure why you insist this is a punishment - You are welcome to discuss politics anywhere else you want but here. That is hardly a punishment...but it does avoid a near 100% topic locking, member banning issue and stems the genesis of a majority of personal grudge matches on the site.
    As far as the other off topic threads - Expect to see a change in the tolerance level for those shenanigans as well.
     
  2. Jun 28, 2012 at 8:17 PM
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    ...i understand you guys are the boss.... i do discuss such things on my forum... i was just expressing my take on the topic (i.e. which is relevant to this thread)... i am glad to hear that you see my point about the derogatory language/attacks/etc that has been quite pervasive, irregardless of topics...
     
  3. Jun 28, 2012 at 9:28 PM
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    Okay, I'm not that influenced by the news. In fact, I'm extremely distrustful of nearly anything presented by the media, press, or others. As a result, I've studied Obamacare carefully as it relates to me (costs, benefits, etc) and came to a conclusion based on that.

    Anyway, lets start off by getting Medicare and Medicaid out of the way. I guess the most obvious would be to point out that those exact programs already provide comprehensive medical services (inpatient/outpatient care, doctor visits, lab tests, x-rays, nursing home & home health care, prescription drugs, family planning, preventative medicine, etc) for most of the people Obamacare purports to protect - the elderly, those with low or no income, those on public assistance, the disabled, those whose income is reduced by large medical expenses, and similar. In 2014, Obamacare will expand that to cover even more (all at or near the poverty line), obviously at an additional cost to taxpayers. In other words, your "sick people without coverage" are already quite well covered and have been for a very long time.

    Few object to much of that. Instead, the primary objections (including mine) focus on the additional costs to taxpayers and the so-call individual mandate. I believe the former should be paid for by reduced federal spending, while the latter is far too costly for most, especially in a tight economy. The individual mandate requires individuals not covered by employer or government insurance to maintain their own coverage or pay a penalty (1% of income). Of course, the major downside to Obamacare is that it sets few limits on health care costs or no limits on insurance premiums. As a result, my insurance premiums, as an elderly person, will be quite substantial. Those increased Medicare and Medicaid costs (taxes) and insurance premiums was money we were planning to use for retirement (now delayed indefinitely). In the meantime, the insurance companies will get even richer from all the new policies & related monthly premiums.

    Of course, that's not to say all are thrilled with paying to expand Medicare and Medicaid. Some people (myself included) feel those programs already cover all those it should protect (the truly needy) and should not be expanded to cover others. At the very least, the programs (like other assistance programs) should do far more to encourage people to work and provide for themselves (their own coverage, etc) instead of relying on public assistance (my taxes) forever.

    Anyway, all of this is now perhaps moot following Thursday's Supreme Court ruling. The "four liberal justices agreed that the individual mandate should be upheld as part of Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce." I guess they didn't notice I'm a person, not interstate commerce. The costs of Obamacare (taxes, insurance premiums, possible fines, etc) are directed at me.
     
  4. Jun 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM
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    didn't even know we was allowed to post on this thread
     
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