Poll: Knowing it might void your engine warranty, would you run an aftermarket air filter?

the ballot should be worded differently. if an after market filter is installed correctly, there is no risk!

 

my vote is any filter the owner of the vehicle decides, after market or oem! if they improperly install an oem they will void there warranty as well if the dealer wants to put the screws to them.


After market for me.

 

Yeah ok , except your idea and Toyota’s may be two different things.

Exactly what is the benefits you are going for to risk it..other than noise

 

Reusable, cost saving, for those reasons.

 

For a "performance" filter the only way to increase airflow without making the filter bigger is to make the holes in the element bigger.

 

2 IS enough.

 

I truly believe, assuming everything we've heard is true, that Toyota is using the filter as an excuse to deny this idiot his 3rd engine

 

So for a couple bucks, your going to risk a potential of a 5 figure repair??

 

There’s about as much risk as there is benifit, which it little to none. As others have already stated over and over again, filters aren’t magic. If you want more flow, you need bigger holes (k&n, afe) You got bigger holes, the less strict micron filtration. You can’t have both. Most people prefer the tightest micron tolerance possible (oem) because paying more for less protection (them bigger holes we were talking about) and no actual benefit for decreased flow resistance, paying for oem filters over the lifetime of the truck is the smartest option. I’ve never seen a credible filter test on a hyped up aftermarket high flow filter box OR on line that wasn’t sponsored by the aftermarket filter themselves. They may exist. Still doesn’t matter. Toyota installed a filter that meets the needs for stock engine.

 

Some people dont understand the concept of risk vs reward. I swear some folks could be given the option of a coin flip where heads you get shot in the head and tails you get $ X and you'd have people doing it for $10.

 

Definitely. I would too. My opinion is that if you’re gonna self fellate yourself all over the internet instead of taking care of your truck, you deserve a fucking Ford. Hit the bricks.

 

If i had a vehicle, & it was under warranty with an after market filter & I had a serious

I've all ready stated that I've had one in my truck for over 200k, i spent $50 one time & $15 for the recharger kit! NO ISSUES!
250k going strong!

 

So unreal yet so true.

 

Oh ok then it’s settled. Aftermarket filters must be the correct answer because you.

 

Real world I wouldn't be afraid of a good OEM replacement filter though, nothing really magical about a paper air filter. Only reason I would run an actual OEM one is for the warranty, after that no more.

No K&N or the like, just pretty much the same thing as OEM but in a different box.

 

Your a smart man, now go run to the dealer & buy some filters!

 

Not all reusable filters claim to be performance enhancers. The AEM drop in dry filter I use has been flow tested against a paper filter and shown to flow and filter on par with the paper one. Plus it's a dry synthetic media requiring no oil. Very easy to clean and maintain.

It's advantage is lasting the life of the truck for $40....not hp gains.

There is some info on Bobidtheoilguy site about it.

I'll continue to use my AEM air filter in my stock intake and a Mobile 1 or Purolator PureOne oil filter as I have for years....and not lose even a second of sleep over it.

Toyota denied this tool a 3rd engine because it was obvious he was a negligent owner. In this particular case the filter made a perfect scapegoat

 

When I say oem, I mean oem spec. Fram, wix, whatever. Oem meaning specific micron filtration. Not necessarily from the Toyota parts dept.

 

From an engineer's perspective, you need to define "better." Is it more dirt holding capacity? Is it a finer media that filters smaller particulates? Both?

It depends on what the engineer thinks is best for the application. Also, while a layman would think having both is Better, the guy responsible, the engineer, might decide having adequate filtration for X miles is more important than finer filtration for less miles. You also have space constraints too.

It truly does not matter because the Toyota engineer is responsible for the performance so whatever they decide to spec is the law, so to speak.

What amazes me is some of you think you know more than the guys designing this truck. Just interpreting the fluid dynamics equations alone for something as simple as an air filter, under hundreds of possible scenarios (dust, moisture, cold, hot, high, low, etc) is pretty hard. A guy three beers into a six pack on a Saturday afternoon in his driveway is not the guy to decide one filter is better than the other. Use OEM. No problem.

 

Lol it’s funny that peeps think the dealer “wants to put the screws “ to anyone!
One of there biggest revenue sources in fixed ops is warranty work!
The dealer wants the warranty work.
It’s when you have to call the factory for a big job, that the factory wants some basic answers .
The funny part is when the warranty is found to be voided for a good reason ie.. a bad mod . Everyone goes into a tissy fit!
People sometimes don’t want to take the blame