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Poll: Rev-Matching Manual Transmission Taco's, Do You Do It?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by cintocrunch, Jan 26, 2012.

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Do you rev match your manual transmission Taco?

  1. Yes

    64 vote(s)
    68.1%
  2. No

    30 vote(s)
    31.9%
  1. Jan 26, 2012 at 7:04 PM
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    steve o 77

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    You shouldn't ever need 1st while moving faster than about 1mph. Just put it in second, it'll be fine.
     
  2. Jan 26, 2012 at 7:10 PM
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    no it won't when you have to do a switchback 180 degree turn, up a very steep incline the 2TR simply does not have sufficient torque in 2nd gear to move at a lower speed. the gearing is very far apart between 1st and 2nd. especially when the truck is loaded, this 2nd to 1st downshift and subsquent rev-match is a very useful tool to keep the truck moving uphill, through traffic, for example.
     
  3. Jan 26, 2012 at 7:21 PM
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    oh so like a mountain switchback? I could see that then. I've never see a switchback tight enough to require that slow of a speed.
     
  4. Jan 26, 2012 at 7:22 PM
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    If you got long feet like I do, you can use your heel to hold the brake, and the front of your foot to press the clutch, it wont go down all the way but it worked in my CJ5 for stalling on hills, kinda nice having my right foot free for the gas! That thing's e-brake never worked worth a shit either.

    I rev match most of the time, just habitual really, driven older trucks and 4x4s with unsynchroed trannys throughout my life, so its just a natural reaction!
     
  5. Jan 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM
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    I rev match but I don't generally double clutch.

    I'm still working on consistently being able to get into first between 10 and 20km/h. For my tranny at least, you need to rev match in neutral, with the clutch out, and if you're off even a little, you can't fix it with the clutch in.
     
  6. Jan 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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    yup. it's a blind curve so if your going up at speed limit or whatever, to be safe you gotta round the turn like 10mph max. especially at times when there is heavy oncoming traffic.
     
  7. Feb 18, 2012 at 9:39 AM
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    Not in the 5 speed. Everyday traffic situations often require shifting to 1st while moving with this tranny, the most common being coming up to a red light that turns green just before you get there.
     
  8. Feb 18, 2012 at 1:59 PM
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    That's a peculiar behavior of that 4 cyl truck. I test drove two and know what you mean.

    What doesn't make sense is that the engine:axle ratio of the 2nd gear for the v6 manual (8.17:1) is taller than that of the 6-lug 4 cylinder's (8.45:1), but in the v6 truck I can often drive in 3rd gear down to 10 mph. The 4 cylinder doesn't want to go much below 10 mph in 2nd gear. The engine shakes and you gotta be on the brake like an automatic to keep it down there. Odd.

    The 5-lug, now that's a tall 2nd gear ratio (6.80:1). That could be a real pain.
     
  9. Feb 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM
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    I could be wrong, so don't quote me but I do believe the correct terminology for what you are describing is " pre-loading" the clutch. It's more of a racing term I believe , but I do this all the time in my 6 speed to help with the stress on engine and transmission. I live in the mountains and to get to town its all downhill and a long one at that so I do a lot of downshifting for the tighter turns and pre-loading makes things much easier.
     
  10. Feb 18, 2012 at 4:24 PM
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    that must be it because my 3.4L will pull from 5mph in second gear no problem.
     
  11. Feb 27, 2012 at 11:07 AM
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    Agreed :thumbsup: do this on all manual vehicles I drive. :cool:
     
  12. Mar 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM
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    Yup. Also put it in 5th before 1st to slow the shafts down, it's a crunchy and tight trans right now (still less than 100 miles) and drives like it's not a synchronized box.

    Even though I could get away not doing it, I always use the clutch on a street car / truck.

    Clutches last me a long time. Even the SACHS 4 puck in my race car is the same one I put in there 5 years ago.
     
  13. Mar 7, 2012 at 11:41 PM
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    I heel to toe'd my old S10 all the time and heel to toe the Porsche when I'm racing it but the Tacoma, unfortunately, is an auto so that can't happen.
     
  14. Mar 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM
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    I rev match, and I also never sit with the clutch depressed. I sold my last vehicle with 175K on the clock and the original clutch worked perfectly. The vehicle before that had 195K when I sold it with the original clutch. My Taco has just 72K and I'm planning on replacing that at 300K when I rebuild the engine ;)
     
  15. Jan 2, 2013 at 9:32 PM
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    Didn't answer the poll because my Taco is an automatic, but on my motorcycles and every other manual vehicle I've ever driven....

    Clutchless? No.

    Rev-match? Yes.

    Trying to shift a 1600cc motorcycle without rev matching is going to be a rough ride.
     
  16. Jul 8, 2013 at 10:44 PM
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    Agreed! The engine braking on a racy street bike engine is so significant, you could easily lose the back tire even in a straight line, if you don't slip the clutch really carefully! Rev match is the correct option IMO.

    My first guess? Idle/stall speed. I've never known a 4-cyl that could even idle below maybe 700RPM let alone drive, while the V6 in my Taco doesn't seem to mind driving (gently) at 400RPM or even 300RPM. 4-cyls are just naturally less balanced than a V6- though great strides have been made.
     
  17. Jul 8, 2013 at 11:28 PM
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    Rev match, yes. I still use the clutch on the taco though. Loved floating gears in my 90 Suzuki sidekick. But I baby my taco Tranny a little more.
     
  18. Jul 9, 2013 at 6:36 AM
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    Been driving manuals for about 30 years now and have never had to worry about a worn clutch. After youtubing what the title thread is, I know I have done it upon occasion when driving, but not as a rule. When slowing down I usually slip the transmission into neutral, brake normally, and when it is time to accelerate I usually know what gear I want depending on current speed, and shift into it then.
     
  19. Oct 14, 2013 at 12:10 PM
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    Doesn't cross my mind either it's second nature to bring the revs up when downshifting in all manuals I drive. Even on the marina forklifts I drive I try to bring up the revs when downshifting.

    Makes it a much more comfortable ride and easier on the trans and motor.
     
  20. Oct 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM
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    is this a real question? if you aren't rev matching on a down shift at speed, you really shouldn't be driving a vehicle equipped with a manual transmission.
     
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